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Quite interesting reading, but I wonder..to what end? The system of governments around the world are all doomed to fail as they are inherently self-destructive. Arguing whether one system is better than another while still assuming the future will be like the past is not a good exercise. When the excrement hits the fan and we are left to fend for ourselves--you know it's coming--what system will we use? We will barter with each other, we will collectivize what needs to be owned by the community, and we will be forced to work together because there will be no other option. Capitalism is the exact opposite of this. Communism (as in the aloof Soviet version) can't be employed because no large social structure will exist. A spectrum of varying degrees of socialism spread across small regions comprising of perhaps a 1000 people will probably be the way to go forward. Large government and human/resource exploitation have no place in the future if we are to survive as a species.
To what end... Indeed!
I'm getting the idea that the spectrum of degrees of socialism will wind up being how international relations, human rights mgmt, and trade agreements will be solved on equal footing once and for all. I'm not willing to part with the constitution, however. I think it's very wise. I consider myself responsible with my liberties so it's worked well for me. Others not so well.
I just can't picture it being 1,000 people in millions of discreet groups though. Any idea what a maximum size gov't efficiency is, or is that how you came up with 1,000? I recall reading a book about ideal company sizes due to human efficiency networks & 6 degrees of separation, but I'll be damned if I can recall the title.
To what end... Indeed!
I'm getting the idea that the spectrum of degrees of socialism will wind up being how international relations, human rights mgmt, and trade agreements will be solved on equal footing once and for all. I'm not willing to part with the constitution, however. I think it's very wise. I consider myself responsible with my liberties so it's worked well for me. Others not so well.
I just can't picture it being 1,000 people in millions of discreet groups though. Any idea what a maximum size gov't efficiency is, or is that how you came up with 1,000? I recall reading a book about ideal company sizes due to human efficiency networks & 6 degrees of separation, but I'll be damned if I can recall the title.
My estimate of a thousand was just a guess. There might be some magical number beyond which a group experiences entropy and fails, but I still envision the future as a collection of small local groups of like-minded individuals. Some groups will succeed more than others. Some groups will end up killing themselves. However, reducing things to a common denominator like something akin to socialism (with a Constitution of some sort) is the best course of action in my opinion.
When you get up high enough, you can't see borders or countries. It's just one planet.
Representative democracy is our form of government. That with capitalism is kind of a ying and yang relationship.
Yes Linc, but capitalism doesnt govern people, only allows a basis for economic structure. The law of the land has to be supreme or capitalism canibalizes. The yin/yang gets off kilter when business is over regulated or under regulated. All comes down to finding that right setting where gov't maintains it's responsibility for guarding public trust, and knowing when to stay the heck out of it's own way. Not unlike the solar system orchestrated orbits, pull one side too much, it gets messy.
As socialism goes, keeps everything on a nice even keel (aka malaise by some) with modest investment returns like 3% appreciation on a home per yr. across the board. Nobody starves, nobody has an excuse for stealing bread, and nobody gets ignored in a job market because Dr's are arbitrarily worth less than rocketscientists by the fads of commerce values excercising excess influence over people.
I'd hate to have 'the feds' job! What a thankless task that must be! And the WHINING! OY!
reducing things to a common denominator like something akin to socialism (with a Constitution of some sort) is the best course of action in my opinion.
When you get up high enough, you can't see borders or countries. It's just one planet.
I didn't have to be on the moon to see that, I've just traveled so much and went with appreciation for every culture/social strata I visited. They each gave me the gift of their best thoughts, which has made me wealthy in a way that the IRS can't tax yet.
No I don't. There is no need for government. There is no need for the police or a military. As the universe is already ordered, there's no need for imposing control on anything. Right now we ARE tremendously imbalanced and the move toward balance will be met with opposition and resistance. Too bad. Everything in the universe is held accountable eventually.
Since the body dies, should we disregard good nutrition?
You are equating an economy with a living being? A country is not an economy. An economy is a man-made construct, a set of "agreements" that are basically forced on us. I see no reason to feed such a beast knowing its ravenous appetite and penchant for cannibalism.
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Actually, you are wrong. You have described the manifestation of capitalism perfectly.
I see your point, but I don't think capitalism is worth repeating. I know I will play no part in recreating it. The competition inherent in capitalism presupposes that resources are finite and must be fought over. Capitalism is based on fear and savagely exploits any and all resources.
I don't think human beings have evolved enough to be without a government structure. I don't know that we ever will if we keep getting pulled backwards with people who have no self discipline.
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What a thankless task that must be! And the WHINING! OY!
