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The propaganda arm of the DNC (CNN,MSNBC, CBS, NBC, ABC, etc) have been itching to get us into a new war, since the last one ended a few months ago... I'm sure they thought Afghanistan was getting a little boring and stale.
The Ukraine is playing the wrong game, they should of and could have been playing the MAD game (mutually assured Destruction)
But the foolish Ukrainians took the word of a Democrat (Bill Clinton), and gave up there Nuclear weapons. https://www.dw.com/en/ukraines-forgo...dum/a-18111097
They should have seen the writing on the wall when another Democrat allowed there land to be stolen from them (Obama/ The Crimea).
Now the final nail will be driven into the Ukraine with yet another feckless Democrat at the helm.
Word to the wise, "Never, ever trust a Democrat, your life and freedom could depend on it"
If I was the leader of Taiwan right now I would have every scientist, and engineer on that island working on building a short range thermo nuclear missile ASAP!
The propaganda arm of the DNC (CNN,MSNBC, CBS, NBC, ABC, etc) have been itching to get us into a new war, since the last one ended a few months ago... I'm sure they thought Afghanistan was getting a little boring and stale.
As An American, Do You Support Fighting a Hot War With Russia?
No, I support fighting (US troops along with western European nations) a "hot war" against whoever invades Ukraine. And that war will be limited to making the invader unable to invade, and he leaves and doesn't come back. And to do it as quickly and overwhelmingly as possible. And once the invader leaves, all the nations that defeated them will withdraw and bring their forces home.
If Romania invades Ukraine, then that's who the war will be against.
If Moldova invades Ukraine, then that's who the war will be against.
If Russia invades Ukraine, then that's who the war will be against.
If Poland invades Ukraine, then that's who the war will be against.
If Belarus invades Ukraine, then that's who the war will be against.
If Hungary invades Ukraine, then that's who the war will be against.
Who we go to war against in Ukraine, is up to the nation that decides to invade them. Do THEY want to risk a major war with US?
So it's clear we are fighting an all out economic war with Russia.
You never stopped fighting an economic war with Russia.
You first attacked Russia when you and the Brits forced Germany to stop paying war reparations to Russia in violation of international law and the treaty between Germany and the Soviet Union.
The Russians had every legal right to start WW III to force Germany to resume payments, but instead they chose to peaceably protest and blockade US, British and French access to Berlin.
After your butt-hurt there, you and the Brits barred East Bloc currencies from being traded on the global market.
What do you suppose your life would be like if the world refused to accept US Dollars in payment for trade goods?
Your suffering would be legendary, even in Hell, but Eastern Europeans survived.
1996 was the first year Russian Rubles could legally be traded.
Ukraine is all about economics. It's about maintaining your Standard of Living so it doesn't collapse and to do that, you have to carve up eastern Russia and set up puppet dictators and rape the people of all their wealth and resources, just like you've done to dozens and dozens of countries around the world for the last 120+ years.
Obama was right about one thing. You didn't build that. The 3rd and 4th World built it for you.
They suffered while you stole all their wealth.
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I'm also curious about the political ideology of those who support/oppose taking such drastic measures.
I'm an ultra-Conservative and not one of the Trotskyites-turned-Neo-Cons or pseudo-Cons or Jesus-Cons.
If Ukraine loses, then it will be very difficult for the US to carve up eastern Russia and steal all the wealth and resources so's you can continue to consume 34% of the World's non-oil resources.
You'll have to tone down your Standard of Living a few notches.
The 1990s wasn't so bad, and it's way better than the late 1960s/early 1970s Standard of Living, but you'll survive, and that's way better than the alternative which is not surviving at all.
Certainly not! If anything I'd like for there to be a number of initiatives enacted such as cutting off military aid to Ukraine (at least to the extremist elements embedded within their government), investigating the biolabs, stop allowing Ukraine to be a hot spot for exploitative business affairs of western figureheads, and recognising the detrimental role the US has had in the corruption of that country.
If they want to be part of the EU then that's their business. Russia would likely prefer a Ukraine that's an economic partner of theirs but so long as it's not part of NATO, there might be more tolerance. I think. You could probably get more amenability if there was a recognition for autonomy in the Russian speaking areas of the country. It's not just Russians though. A plethora of languages like Romanian, Hungarian, Polish and others are used in certain areas of the country. The territorial evolution of Ukraine over the past 90 years saw it gaining portions of Hungary, Poland, and Romania where members of those ethnolingustic peoples reside.
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