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Old 04-01-2022, 04:17 AM
 
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Meanwhile Biden’s 2023 budget allots $7.5 billion to land the first woman of color on the moon.
“Let them eat moon rocks!” he exclaimed
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Old 04-01-2022, 04:22 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...-80-month-gas/

Wow! Buy a $50,000 - $60,000 EV and save $80 a month!!!

From the article: "The president blamed Russian President Vladimir Putin for the spike in gas prices as well as the ongoing coronavirus pandemic.

He spoke at length about his green energy subsidy plans currently awaiting support from Congress.

“Under my plan, which is before the Congress now, we can take advantage of the next generation of electric vehicles, that a typical driver will save about $80 a month from not having to pay gas at the pump,” Biden boasted.
"

First of all, how do you "pay gas at the pump"?

Second of all, how does paying $50,000 - $60,000 to save $80 a month make ANY financial sense? I guess it's this kind of thinking that has us $30,000,000,000,000 in debt.
A special kind of stupid.
Nicely done, Trump haters.
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Old 04-01-2022, 04:23 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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You can't blame him, the Left has always been financially illiterate.

Their entire platform depends on it.
Can't argue with that. Well stated.
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Old 04-01-2022, 04:40 AM
 
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I would love it if someone could explain to me how transitioning to EVs, which are charged by a grid that derives 60% of its energy from fossil fuels, will do anything to reduce carbon emissions. 40% of the grid comes from burning coal, which emits far more carbon / J of energy than gasoline.

Oh wait, I forgot, this has nothing to do with reducing carbon emissions, or gaining energy independence. Its just a distraction from another glaring failure. Its pushing the problem of carbon emissions from an engine under your hood, to a coal-burning powerplant hundreds of miles away. Its a very expensive way to hide the issue, in effect.

I am guessing that once we are forced to all transition to EVs, 2 things will happen: There will be NO reduction (and possibly an increase) in carbon emissions (see logic above), and we will have an electric grid constantly on the verge of collapse.
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Old 04-01-2022, 05:11 AM
 
Location: Metro Seattle Area - Born and Raised
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To a politician, this makes sense since they get plenty of free government perks, corporate freebies, foreign government gifts, hidden money donations, selling of influence, kick-backs, insider trading and often, simply straight-up theft. So!! $50Ks - $60Ks is chump change to them.

They are so out of touch with the Working-Class it’s no longer even funny. Sadly, the American people we be blamed for the situation Biden’s policies has you us in. This is nothing more that a “Let them eat cake” moment. AND!!! Many will defend these failed ideals, as they’re suffering through hyper inflation.

It’s going to be a long and hard Summer and sadly, their is nothing we can do but take it. Obama was 100% right… “Voting has its consequences.”

Honestly, the last thing I want to hear is some slimy politician or multi-millionaire/billionaire telling me what “l” should do while they do the complete opposite.
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Old 04-01-2022, 05:15 AM
 
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Hey naysayers those 52 years just to break even are gonna fly by in no time. Just you wait and see.
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Old 04-01-2022, 05:16 AM
 
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Originally Posted by FordBronco1967 View Post
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...-80-month-gas/

Wow! Buy a $50,000 - $60,000 EV and save $80 a month!!!

From the article: "The president blamed Russian President Vladimir Putin for the spike in gas prices as well as the ongoing coronavirus pandemic.

He spoke at length about his green energy subsidy plans currently awaiting support from Congress.

“Under my plan, which is before the Congress now, we can take advantage of the next generation of electric vehicles, that a typical driver will save about $80 a month from not having to pay gas at the pump,” Biden boasted.
"

First of all, how do you "pay gas at the pump"?

Second of all, how does paying $50,000 - $60,000 to save $80 a month make ANY financial sense? I guess it's this kind of thinking that has us $30,000,000,000,000 in debt.
I am saving more than that to drive 50 miles a week. My 2021 Camaro got 8mpg using prem and would cost around $120 a month for gas. My EV cost me $6 a month to charge.

Now if gas goes back to sub 2.80 a gal for prem i would go back to a fast gas car.
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Old 04-01-2022, 05:23 AM
 
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Originally Posted by FordBronco1967 View Post
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...-80-month-gas/

Wow! Buy a $50,000 - $60,000 EV and save $80 a month!!!

From the article: "The president blamed Russian President Vladimir Putin for the spike in gas prices as well as the ongoing coronavirus pandemic.

He spoke at length about his green energy subsidy plans currently awaiting support from Congress.

“Under my plan, which is before the Congress now, we can take advantage of the next generation of electric vehicles, that a typical driver will save about $80 a month from not having to pay gas at the pump,” Biden boasted.
"

First of all, how do you "pay gas at the pump"?

Second of all, how does paying $50,000 - $60,000 to save $80 a month make ANY financial sense? I guess it's this kind of thinking that has us $30,000,000,000,000 in debt.
How much do you think cars are? the $80 a month is just for the delta between EV and a conventional gasoline car.
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Old 04-01-2022, 05:33 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Save 80 a month but pay extra 1000 a month in car payments and insurance. Along with the contractor payment plan to install a charger.
Does he have an electric limo?

NO. I didn't think so.
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Old 04-01-2022, 05:34 AM
 
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I would love it if someone could explain to me how transitioning to EVs, which are charged by a grid that derives 60% of its energy from fossil fuels, will do anything to reduce carbon emissions. 40% of the grid comes from burning coal, which emits far more carbon / J of energy than gasoline.

Oh wait, I forgot, this has nothing to do with reducing carbon emissions, or gaining energy independence. Its just a distraction from another glaring failure. Its pushing the problem of carbon emissions from an engine under your hood, to a coal-burning powerplant hundreds of miles away. Its a very expensive way to hide the issue, in effect.

I am guessing that once we are forced to all transition to EVs, 2 things will happen: There will be NO reduction (and possibly an increase) in carbon emissions (see logic above), and we will have an electric grid constantly on the verge of collapse.
The increase in emissions would only be temporary as you transition you grid sources to things that don't produce emissions this is something we should do independent of "cars", now electricity is in this sense just a form of transferring energy, in any scenario where you seek to reduce emissions your goal is reduce the amount of things that burn energy, electric motors dont do that so you would in all scenarios need to adress that as well. Otherwise I dont understand the plan, we just keep doing the same until the wheels fall off and hope we come up with something?
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