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Old 04-01-2022, 08:55 AM
 
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If you are trying to make the point that safety and prosperity means different things to different people I would agree. I think that's the real problem.
So you agree. What you initially said no longer unifies the country.
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Old 04-01-2022, 09:06 AM
 
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So you agree. What you initially said no longer unifies the country.
I'm not understanding this post.
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Old 04-01-2022, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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I honestly think we are past the point of unity. We've become to polarized, in many cases due to misinformation, closed mindedness, lack of common sense, fear of missing out, and virtue signaling. Also to many in this country are narcissist's, and too many people generalize.
Globalism (Internationalism) is socialism without "blood and soil," i.e., Fascism.

Early on, Marxists recognized Fascism as a limitation on the collective's ability to expand its control over the world's many nations.

Today, Marxists are still flailing their arms at an international Fascist movement, but it's one that doesn't really exist, see Antifa, BLM, JDL, SPLC, etc.

They do this because the extreme government policies required to support a Marxist revolution will only be tolerated if the people live in fear of a close-by nationalist threat, like that posed by pre-war Nazi Germany (see 2022 Russia-Ukraine War rationale).

All of this is very deliberate.

International corporations (Apple, Disney, Microsoft, etc.) want free access to resources and markets in various countries, but nationalist policies (autocracy, facilitated by trade tariffs, protectionism and limited immigration, see Trump) makes reducing the entire world, except for the wealthiest oligarchs, to a single crappy standard of living via internationalism all but impossible.

For now, Soros and friends will continue to oppose effective national borders, import workers, sell America out to the Chinese Communists whenever possible and fuel the fires of racial strife.

At the very least, BLM, Antifa, et.al., can maintain sufficient race hate to keep nationalism in check while they continue to work to bring about an oligarch friendly Marxist revolution.
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Old 04-01-2022, 10:02 AM
 
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I think what unites Americans is everyone wants a safe place to live and prosperity for themselves at least.
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If you are trying to make the point that safety and prosperity means different things to different people I would agree. I think that's the real problem.
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I'm not understanding this post.
If safety and prosperity mean grossly different things to different people, it is hard to be unifying.

If your definition of safety means mandatory covid vaccines, defunding the police, supporting 500+ violent riots in 2020, more government, and etc.

If your definition of prosperity means blatantly racist teachings taught systemically in schools to promote equity, more government dependency through UIB, more taxes, etc.

Then our definitions of safety and prosperity are so far apart it is not unifying.
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Old 04-01-2022, 10:03 AM
 
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Old 04-01-2022, 10:05 AM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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We used to do have a common culture that most of us had in common and immigrants assimilated into it and black integrated into it. But this unfortunately is changing more and more so now. The left doesn't want immigrants to assimilate into American culture and want them to remain separate with separate identities for political reasons. I'm probably one of the last wave of descendants of LEGAL immigrants who is fully assimilated. Its interesting meeting people from places like New York and California who are so unassimilated or so into their own subcultures vs the mainstream. Usually when I meet an Asian person from California I feel I have nothing in common with them, while a lot of people tell me aside from my skin color and the fact that I can speak Chinese, I'm no different than the average Southerner. I really can't name a single Asian singer while my playlist is almost entirely country. Food wise I'm pickier on steak, meatloaf, and barbecue than I am on Chinese food. I'm pickier on the authenticity of Cajun cooking than Chinese food.

I don't think someone necessarily has to culturally 100% assimilate but politically they should believe in American democracy and American capitalism, and their national allegiance should be to the USA, their loyalty to America must be stronger than to their previous country, when they vote they must put American interests first. For example, I am of Chinese ancestry but when it comes to trade deals I like trade deals where America is in a dominant position over China, unlike what the Democrats negotiated. Though my parents are immigrants (LEGAL ones) I support building a wall on the border and I voted for Trump twice and will vote for him again.
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Old 04-01-2022, 10:15 AM
 
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Why not post your last remark in English?
IDK caveat emptor.
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Old 04-01-2022, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Palm Coast FL
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Food, food unites us, whether it's the perfect cheeseburger, pizza, philly cheesesteak, taco truck, chili, whatever. We can all rally around our favorite all-American foods no matter where they originated.
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Old 04-01-2022, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Colorado
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Food, food unites us, whether it's the perfect cheeseburger, pizza, philly cheesesteak, taco truck, chili, whatever. We can all rally around our favorite all-American foods no matter where they originated.
Democrats are out to kill that as well. Didn’t you know that we should all be eating less meat because climate change?
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Old 04-01-2022, 10:26 AM
 
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Food, food unites us, whether it's the perfect cheeseburger, pizza, philly cheesesteak, taco truck, chili, whatever. We can all rally around our favorite all-American foods no matter where they originated.
#1 I don't know how unifying food actually is.

#2 The left is politicizing food. For example, my "diversity and inclusion training" taught us teachers that a defining trait of "whiteness" is that "bland food is the best."

Read this article:

https://everydayfeminism.com/2016/09...litical-issue/

or

https://www.solid-ground.org/cultura...ation-of-food/

or

https://cornellsun.com/2021/03/25/fo...-its-personal/

or

https://news.yahoo.com/people-have-t...190829557.html

Food is now being politicized from everything from cultural appropriation, to climate change, to gender inequities, to racism, to colonialism, etc. Give it a few more years and it will be a bigger and more deeply dividing issue.

Teachers in my school are actively politicizing food this year.


#3 The right had people buy less coke due to their diversity training that included racist teachings. The left had people buy less chick fil-A due to their political beliefs. It is already happening.
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