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View Poll Results: Are electric vehicles the future of American personal travel?
Yes 202 44.99%
No 247 55.01%
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Old 04-11-2022, 11:00 AM
 
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actually the EV's are functionally better
It's been noted a million times in this thread that it is worse, and why.

But, if it's "better," why is the product going over like a lead balloon to the public?
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Old 04-11-2022, 11:02 AM
 
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It's been noted a million times in this thread that it is worse, and why.

But, if it's "better," why is the product going over like a lead balloon to the public?
It has been noted that it is your opinion that it is worse.

Getting an EV now still makes you an early adopter. As car makers replace their caveman ICE vehicles with modern electric ones and people have more choices, I would expect the EV ownership rate to rapidly rise.
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Old 04-11-2022, 11:10 AM
 
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It has been noted that it is your opinion that it is worse.

Getting an EV now still makes you an early adopter. As car makers replace their caveman ICE vehicles with modern electric ones and people have more choices, I would expect the EV ownership rate to rapidly rise.
I see. 20 years in, you're still an "early adopter."

Gotcha.

And actually car makers are being forced to offer LESS choices so that the government can force an unpopular product to the be the only game in town.

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Old 04-11-2022, 11:42 AM
 
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I see. 20 years in, you're still an "early adopter."

Gotcha.

And actually car makers are being forced to offer LESS choices so that the government can force an unpopular product to the be the only game in town.
What electric car was being mass produced and easily available to consumers 20 years ago?
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Old 04-11-2022, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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I see. 20 years in, you're still an "early adopter."

Gotcha.

And actually car makers are being forced to offer LESS choices so that the government can force an unpopular product to the be the only game in town.
EV's sales increased by 72% in 2021

https://www.kbb.com/car-news/electri...ar-sales-fall/
Americans bought 21.3% fewer cars in the fourth quarter of 2021 than in the fourth quarter of 2020. But we bought 72% more electric vehicles (EVs).

so its not exactly an "unpopular product"
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Old 04-11-2022, 12:55 PM
 
Location: East of Seattle since 1992, 615' Elevation, Zone 8b - originally from SF Bay Area
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EV's sales increased by 72% in 2021

https://www.kbb.com/car-news/electri...ar-sales-fall/
Americans bought 21.3% fewer cars in the fourth quarter of 2021 than in the fourth quarter of 2020. But we bought 72% more electric vehicles (EVs).

so its not exactly an "unpopular product"
Buying 72% more EVs when they were at only 1.7% of all vehicles is hardly a big deal. as of 2022 they are only 2.6% of global sales.
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Old 04-11-2022, 02:11 PM
 
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Buying 72% more EVs when they were at only 1.7% of all vehicles is hardly a big deal. as of 2022 they are only 2.6% of global sales.
This is like "China Virus cases in schools rose 100% last week."

Yes, they went from 4 to 8.

GAS lighting. No pun intended.
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Old 04-11-2022, 02:12 PM
 
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What electric car was being mass produced and easily available to consumers 20 years ago?
Toyota Prius. And actually it was launched in 1997, so more like 25 years.
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Old 04-11-2022, 02:43 PM
 
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Toyota Prius. And actually it was launched in 1997, so more like 25 years.
That Prius was decidedly NOT an EV. It was a non-plugin hybrid. So it was an ICE vehicle that got great gas mileage around town because it generated power when you braked. It couldn't go anywhere without gasoline.

Now a plug-in hybrid is actually an EV because it's got a battery that you can charge while the car is parked and then drive around purely on electric. Our Chevy Volt goes between 40-50 miles on pure electric.
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Old 04-11-2022, 02:59 PM
 
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That Prius was decidedly NOT an EV. It was a non-plugin hybrid. So it was an ICE vehicle that got great gas mileage around town because it generated power when you braked. It couldn't go anywhere without gasoline.

Now a plug-in hybrid is actually an EV because it's got a battery that you can charge while the car is parked and then drive around purely on electric. Our Chevy Volt goes between 40-50 miles on pure electric.
So? The Prius was at least partially electric and got the ball rolling on them. It was the original "world saver" status symbol and virtue signaler. No one ever said that the first ones would be "fully" electric. That was even more impractical back then.

Today there are far more "hybrids" on the road than fully electric vehicles. Neither is very popular.

And your Volt? What happened to it? Produced anymore?
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