Electric vehicles ARE NOT the future. (race, meaning, economically, generation)

[Wapasha]

Originally Posted by atxcio

Yup, and it’s replace engine time at that point. I think swapping a circuit board would be easier. But that’s just me.

I could replace my entire engine and drive train for less than the costs of replacing an EV battery plant.

[Submariner]

Originally Posted by paracord

... One tiny disruption in your local electricity grid, and you're toast.

What?

Our power grid goes down every month. That has no real effect on anything.

I do not understand why you would think that it would have some effect?

[Wapasha]

Originally Posted by atxcio

I’m not sure that any has. That’s kind of the point.

so we just believe the commercials as fact? Sort of like the world is going to end in 12 years due to climate change, but since no one has gone into the future to disprove it yet, that's the point.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J9VEBREa68

[Submariner]

Originally Posted by EDS_

... The block is made of CGI (compacted graphite iron to deal with the heat and pressure of diesel combustion). The turbo tends to superheat when pulling say a boat (all small turbo diesels tend to be heat bombs FWIIW).

The Bollinger B-1 Utility truck is EV and it can easily tow your boat even while off-roading, or while climbing Pikes Peak.

[atxcio]

Originally Posted by Wapasha

so we just believe the commercials as fact? Sort of like the world is going to end in 12 years due to climate change, but since no one has gone into the future to disprove it yet, that's the point.

What commercials? Tesla does not do commercials.

https://www.hotcars.com/heres-why-yo...sla-ads-on-tv/

[EDS_]

Originally Posted by Wapasha

I could replace my entire engine and drive train for less than the costs of replacing an EV battery plant.

That depends very much on what you drive.


A spartan long block kit for my Jeep diesel is $10,500. Complete engine $22,750 in the box.

[Submariner]

Originally Posted by atxcio

Right now that lifespan is about 450K miles for a Tesla. With the new 4680 batteries, it’s closer to 1 million miles.

Wouldn’t want to keep an ICE going that long. Think of all the maintenance. I’ve never owned a car long enough to put 450k miles on it, have you?

My Prius Prime is at 180k, service manager expects it to pass 300k before we have any need to do any diagnostics on the battery.

[paracord]

Originally Posted by atxcio

Best not to comment on what you don’t understand. Mechanical and electrical failure rates and efficiency are very different.


You mean like failure of the electric grid? Yeah, that’s a tiny disruption. You might only have no heat or a/c, possibly no way to cook food, no lighting or electronics, no internet, etc. Yeah, tiny disruption.


I could, but wouldn’t need to, because the failure rate is infinitesimally smaller than complex mechanical systems. I’ve fixed enough ICE vehicles to be done with that mess. But if you enjoy tinkering, more power to you. Enjoy the symphony of moving parts that is an ICE vehicle.

Yeah, I've never had electric motors burn out on anything in my life. Just never happens. Uh huh.

https://www.hotcars.com/problems-wit...y-talks-about/

[EDS_]

Originally Posted by Submariner

The Bollinger B-1 Utility truck is EV and it can easily tow your boat even while off-roading, or while climbing Pikes Peak.

Right. The bottom line is electrics can and will deliver 150-200 foot pounds or more of very low RMP torque to each wheel when needed. Outside range issues which will improve the live performance of EVs is just amazing.

[Submariner]

Originally Posted by Wapasha

I could replace my entire engine and drive train for less than the costs of replacing an EV battery plant.

You are trying to compare an automobile engine to a factory?

Well, of course an entire factory with hundreds of employees is going to be more expensive than a single car engine. Duh!