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Old 04-04-2022, 11:09 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Aging country is dying country, immigration does not cure that.
Why not? Have you ever heard of anchor babies, something Trump is against?

 
Old 04-04-2022, 11:15 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Each one of us will hopefully burden the society when we get older. Who is paying that burden then? The younger generation, that's who.

I see it as each person has an obligation before the society to raise at least one child (or 2 for a couple), so that those children will support them when the couple gets older. Those who don't want to raise children keep all their money to themselves, yet would expect not lesser level of services when they hit retirement.
Huh? I never saw my mother as a burden on society as she lived on until age 96. She drew on Social Security as was due her along with supplementary income from two rental houses she owned.
 
Old 04-04-2022, 11:16 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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I am not sure Democrats would agree to have a generation of children who weren't indoctrinated by their liberal values. That would be death to the Democratic Party.
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And the problem with that is......??
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The problem with that is that Democrats have all the powers
Sounds like a win-win.
 
Old 04-04-2022, 11:17 PM
 
Location: Milwaukee, WI
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Then surely to be fair you strongly want vouchers passed for private schools so Republican students can go be indoctrinated by private Christian schools on the right.
I support this measure, indeed. There must be some accountability though, especially if the vouchers are allowed to home-schooled children.
 
Old 04-04-2022, 11:21 PM
 
Location: Milwaukee, WI
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Why not? Have you ever heard of anchor babies, something Trump is against?
Immigrants bring their own culture, and that is not American. If there are too many of them, living in one place, then the country becomes less of USA and more of "the old country". On one hand, USA is a country of immigrants, on another - we're facing all sorts of criminal gang wars and other problems, we wouldn't have if american society is reproducing itself.


(hmm, all of the above is written by an immigrant...)
 
Old 04-04-2022, 11:25 PM
 
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Why not? Have you ever heard of anchor babies, something Trump is against?
We should all be against this. Doesn’t matter though. It’s in our constitution. Anyone born here is a citizen
 
Old 04-04-2022, 11:28 PM
 
Location: Milwaukee, WI
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We should all be against this. Doesn’t matter though. It’s in our constitution. Anyone born here is a citizen
I knew a guy who sent all his wives to USA to give birth. And the dude has 5 wives so far (if not more, I don't follow his life that close).
 
Old 04-05-2022, 02:15 AM
 
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Punitive governance is what is being called for here.
 
Old 04-05-2022, 03:01 AM
 
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Given that Western society is aging, don't you think it would be a great idea to collect higher tax rates on each childless person? And, say, have the "normal" rate once a person parents 2 children (so, no advantage for having too many children either).


There could be also an "adoption" route for those who is not capable to give birth.
We already do and it's completely insane and totally backwards.
 
Old 04-05-2022, 03:02 AM
 
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I think so, childless people should ay $1000/mo tax extra. We've probably spent $1M or more on our kids, definitely more now that I think of it.
You haven't given one reason why.

You've spent a million on YOUR kids. Why would I pay for them?
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