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Old 04-11-2022, 09:53 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Life begins at birth. Even the bible states that, if you are religious.
The science of it is that a fetus is a stage of the human life cycle. It's a human life. Follow the science.

 
Old 04-11-2022, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Austin TX
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You mean like a book like the bible, torah or koran?
Yes. Just like that.
 
Old 04-11-2022, 10:10 AM
 
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Any surprise that so many women's lives are in danger? Or is that worthy of a shrug on your part also?
If a woman's facing a life-threatening medical emergency, there is no law that states: Do not treat her.

Please link to it, if any states have such a law as I'm unaware of their existence.

No doctor would EVER perform a late term abortion to SAVE a woman's life. A c-section is much quicker and less risky to the woman.

But then, the baby lives ... so ...
 
Old 04-11-2022, 10:12 AM
 
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Life begins at birth. Even the bible states that, if you are religious.
Always idiotic when non religious people start using what they THINK are religious arguments.

They fail miserably.
 
Old 04-11-2022, 10:13 AM
 
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You have NO knowledge of the circumstances of her getting pregnant, other than that sex was involved. Was she raped? Did birth control fail? Did the condom leak? You don't know, so don't assume.
Is she any less pregnant?
 
Old 04-11-2022, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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The point is that the 4,000+ Title X Clinics are taxpayer-funded. We don't need the less than 700 privately-funded PPs (which charge for their services) in the same areas.
That's not for you to decide, you don't know the travel distance and particular situations of these individuals. How would you like it if someone decided that your family practice needs to close.

Besides they are only interested in closing clinics named Planned Parenthood.
 
Old 04-11-2022, 10:14 AM
 
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A fetus becomes a baby once born, not before.
So in your view, killing a baby who is 9 months in the womb is acceptable since the baby has not passed the birth canal, correct?

As long as the baby is in the womb, feel free to kill him or her. That's your story?
 
Old 04-11-2022, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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There are about 12,000 to 13,000 late term abortions every year. At least those are the reported ones.

That "<1%" is a lot. /shrug/
Mostly done for very good reasons and not that easy to get approval. These are very difficult decisions that need to be made by the woman not the government.


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Dana Weinstein was 31 weeks into her second pregnancy, preparing to welcome a daughter, when she and her husband were given horrible news: A critical piece of the brain had not developed properly.

"[We were told] that our baby would have seizures 70% of the time — that was a best-case scenario; that when we delivered her, that we'd need to have a resuscitation order in place because she would most likely seize to death," Weinstein said.

Almost a decade later, Weinstein and her husband are the parents of three active children — a boy and two girls. She's 48, living in the suburbs of Washington, D.C., and working for a nonprofit.
https://www.npr.org/2019/04/30/71854...bortion-rights
 
Old 04-11-2022, 10:19 AM
 
Location: Austin TX
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So in your view, killing a baby who is 9 months in the womb is acceptable since the baby has not passed the birth canal, correct?

As long as the baby is in the womb, feel free to kill him or her. That's your story?
He’s Canadian. What do you expect? They can toss their kids in a can up until birth up there.
 
Old 04-11-2022, 10:22 AM
 
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Stop being ridiculous. Most people don't restrict their sex lives to only the times when they want to make a baby.

Sex happens. Sometimes birth control fails.

Sometimes, in the heat of the moment, birth control is forgotten. That is part of the human condition that you don't seem to want to acknowledge. People are not perfect, especially when the hormones are active.
Its no use discussing it with those who dont understand biology or dont believe in Maslow's hierarchy in that humans first needs are air, water, food and sex. I'd say many would put sex above food. Where there is a segment of people who have very low to no libido and I'm sure its more difficult to accept, most people have a healthy sex drive, or at least at some point in their life.

Through human history since the written word we have seen evidence that regardless of consequences human beings will have sex. They risk not just pregnancy but death, torture, banishment, being shunned, lives of ruin and torment, etc. Why some run with the "women arent forced to have sex", "dont have sex if you dont want a baby", "use three types of BC every time" is beyond me. History has proven humans are overwhelmingly slaves to their psychological and biological drives and more often than not they override our intelligence and logic. I dont understand why they keep beating that drum instead of focusing on solutions.
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