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Old 04-15-2022, 09:38 AM
 
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Yes, it does. What is confusing you?
Show me where the study cited says that.
The author from the paper you linked may have said it in her paper but her citation from the study by Finer and Zolna did not nor did the one by Sonfield, etal. Her own studies did not include that research.

 
Old 04-15-2022, 09:40 AM
 
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You mean when I said "not all," as in not everyone. Nothing illogical about that. It's the same as saying not all people weigh more than 300 lbs.

What has you confused?
Sorry, I forgot that it is impossible to have a logical conversation with you.
This is what you said: "Not all people who don't wear masks and/or don't get vaccinated are contagious." That was your reply to my statement that abortion is not contagious (as in not at all). Still don't see the problem?
 
Old 04-15-2022, 10:10 AM
 
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Show me where the study cited says that.
The author from the paper you linked may have said it in her paper but her citation from the study by Finer and Zolna did not nor did the one by Sonfield, etal. Her own studies did not include that research.
Look at Figure 1.3 in the pdf linked below.

"The two-thirds of women who practice contraception consistently all year account for only 5% of unintended pregnancies."

Includes pie charts so you can clearly see what's going on.

https://www.guttmacher.org/sites/def...lth-reform.pdf
 
Old 04-15-2022, 10:13 AM
 
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Sorry, I forgot that it is impossible to have a logical conversation with you.
This is what you said: "Not all people who don't wear masks and/or don't get vaccinated are contagious." That was your reply to my statement that abortion is not contagious (as in not at all). Still don't see the problem?
No, I don't. What is confusing you?
 
Old 04-15-2022, 10:30 AM
 
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Look at Figure 1.3 in the pdf linked below.

"The two-thirds of women who practice contraception consistently all year account for only 5% of unintended pregnancies."

Includes pie charts so you can clearly see what's going on.

https://www.guttmacher.org/sites/def...lth-reform.pdf
 
Old 04-15-2022, 10:34 AM
 
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Look at Figure 1.3 in the pdf linked below.

"The two-thirds of women who practice contraception consistently all year account for only 5% of unintended pregnancies."

Includes pie charts so you can clearly see what's going on.

https://www.guttmacher.org/sites/def...lth-reform.pdf
Are the women in that 5% group, who used birth control properly, allowed to get an abortion in your worldview? After all, they did what you said all women must do every single time.
 
Old 04-15-2022, 10:37 AM
 
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What confuses you about the information presented?
 
Old 04-15-2022, 10:56 AM
 
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Are the women in that 5% group, who used birth control properly, allowed to get an abortion in your worldview? After all, they did what you said all women must do every single time.
I can see exceptions being made in cases of threats to the mother's life or health, problems with the baby's health, rape, or incest. All of those combined account for only 1.7% of all abortions.

As for those who conscientiously use birth control correctly each and every time but still get pregnant, it is a known fact that birth control methods are not 100% effective. Women know that and it's up to them to decide whether or not to risk pregnancy even though the likelihood is extremely low. It's the same type of choice people make when they get in a vehicle to drive or as a passenger. There is a 4.4% chance that the auto will be involved in a collision (US statistic: 12.15 million vehicles involved in collisions per year out of 284 million total vehicles). Can that 4.4% abort the collision? No. You accept the known risk and abide by the consequences.
 
Old 04-15-2022, 01:35 PM
 
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Are the women in that 5% group, who used birth control properly, allowed to get an abortion in your worldview? After all, they did what you said all women must do every single time.
Are you against reducing the number of abortions?

Is that why your response is .... bu bu but CAN THEY GET AN ABORTION?

And not... WOW what a LOW rate for abortion. Maybe if other women were as responsible, the number of babies killed would decrease. And that would be GOOD for EVERYONE!!!!!

But no. It's just. "But they can get abortions too, right??? Because the more babies we kill the better off everyone is!!!!!


Just so sick and demented as a worldview. The only point that matters is: Can we kill that baby, too?
 
Old 04-15-2022, 01:46 PM
 
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What confuses you about the information presented?
How you keep misinterpreting data. That last link was a completely different from your original. You seem to be desperately trying to find something to support the misinformation and wrong citation presented in your original link. If you would actually read the studies you provided to understand the percentages and actual data it might help you.

Still not seeing what your getting so upset by. The actual data from the actual study you linked stated 11% of unintended pregnancies were do to not using any BC. All the other unintended pregnancies used in the stats included live births, miscarriages and abortions.
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