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Old 04-11-2022, 08:25 AM
 
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Final? New variants added to the WHO's list today. Just because the US seems to just trying to ignore it, doesn't mean the rest of the world is.
The pandemic is over, it's just another virus among the thousands of respiratory viruses (some named and others not) that we will be catching from time to time.

You will get the sniffles, you will be just fine after a few days. Relax. It's good to get sick from time to time, it energizes the immune system.
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Old 04-11-2022, 08:25 AM
 
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They misspelled Oregon.
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Old 04-11-2022, 08:26 AM
 
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Very interesting list here, not sure how useful it is outside of giving people something to argue about. I say interesting because of the rankings, for instance, let's look at South Dakota.

South Dakota has little change in GDP during Covid so it was ranked 3rd
South Dakota remained in school, sparse population with low covid rates: 4th
But South Dakota's excess deaths are 22.9% placing it at 44 out of 50

Overall that puts South Dakota at Rank: 5

I have no idea what this number actually means. If I am an economist then I assume this is a positive outcome overall. If I am a public health professional this result may seem very bad and evidence of poor medical handling of Covid.

I guess this chart allows for everyone to argue about something but that is about it. I did learn anything from this.
Side note re: Rural states

A number of rural states have a lot of illegal workers (like in meat packing plants, farm work etc). They didn't get stimulus, they live many packed to a residence (multi-generational) and they can't stop working. Also the whole issue of medical care....

Covid hit them really hard.

The two big outbreaks in Nebraska were from a meat packing plant and a quincinera.

Very complicated and interesting overall issue.
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Old 04-11-2022, 08:28 AM
 
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They misspelled Oregon.
Welcome to 2022, nobody proof-reads anything anymore.

I see articles in major media with typos, poor grammar and mispellings all the time.

Cost cutting.
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Old 04-11-2022, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Spring Hill, FL
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The pandemic is over, it's just another virus among the thousands of respiratory viruses (some named and others not) that we will be catching from time to time.

You will get the sniffles, you will be just fine after a few days. Relax. It's good to get sick from time to time, it energizes the immune system.
I'm nothing but.

I don't disagree with your assertion that it will end up just being another virus among thousands (the pandemic isn't over though, scientifically speaking), but as it's a virus that's only 3 years old, there's plenty of mutations possible and worth monitoring.
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Old 04-11-2022, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Southern Willamette Valley, Oregon
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Stands to reason the bottom of the list is loaded with Blue states, considering they used COVID primarily as a political tool to oust Trump, create fear and panic amongst the general population, destroy the economy, set back children's educations, and exert control over their constituents.
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Old 04-11-2022, 08:34 AM
 
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Anyways, interesting question, what metrics should we use to rank states and how to weight them?

If I were to do this, I wouldn't even bother with COVID deaths, I'd go to "quality life years lost in excess of expectations from all causes". But how to rank this?

I'd also focus on economic devastation, but I'd use economic models to calculate QLY lost from below average economic performance.

Schooling would be the trickiest thing to incorporate, but I'd convert the loss of education to projection of economic output if this is possible, then convert to QLY lost.
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Old 04-11-2022, 08:34 AM
 
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I feel like the final report card is yet to come. The negative impacts of covid restrictions are still unfolding. I do think that states with the most resections will have the hardest time recovering.
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Old 04-11-2022, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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Thank you, OP (and I also wish that I could thank the authors of the study)! I truly did think that California and New York would come out last, btw.

BUT that being said, I have a question --

Does "final" mean that the pandemic is officially over?

I can only hope!!
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Old 04-11-2022, 08:37 AM
 
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I'm nothing but.

I don't disagree with your assertion that it will end up just being another virus among thousands (the pandemic isn't over though, scientifically speaking), but as it's a virus that's only 3 years old, there's plenty of mutations possible and worth monitoring.
I disagree. I would stop monitoring COVID completely. I'd get rid of all testing etc. Right now monitoring is just leading to fear etc.

All viruses mutate, the influenza viruses mutate with a higher rate than our friend, SARS-CoV-2. There is no need to monitor this. Sure, a more lethal variant can rise, but it should be within the same order of magnitude of the variant it proceeded.

Right now, we need to assess what went wrong and what to fix, the pandemic is no more. Get Fauci off the TV for God's sake!
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