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The professor apparently refused to tell lies about a student when the student demanded he tell the lies ("This student is female" when the student is a male)... and the student filed a complaint?
And the university accepted the complaint?
And the university conducted an investigation into an obviously frivolous "complaint"???
If I were a student at that university, I would "demand" that none of my tuition money or tax money be used to pay the lawyers for such a complete waste of their time; and that none of it be used to pay the professor the $400,000 settlement.
Let the University president and others who made the decision to pursue this matter as an official "complaint", pay every penny of it all out of their own pockets.
BTW, one other corny thing about this article: The author was careful in the article itself to not refer to "the student" by ANY pronoun that might identify the student's sex, such as "he" or "she" etc., aside from quoting court papers.
If the "journalist" were at all concerned about reporting the truth and/or using correct, lucid English, the last paragraph quoted below would have read (emphasis mine):
Meriwether didn't agree to the student's request, and court documents state that the student became belligerent and told the professor that he would be fired. The student filed a complaint with the university, launching an investigation which eventually determined that Meriwether "effectively created a hostile environment" for him because Meriwether would not use the preferred pronouns. Meriwether did offer to call him by any name requested, but he did not accept the offer.
Cowardice can be found in many different shapes and sizes.
Ohio public university to pay $400,000 in damages after punishing professor over preferred pronoun controversy
Professor sued Shawnee State University, claiming it violated his First Amendment rights
by Adam Sabes | Fox News
A public university in Ohio will pay $400,000 in damages and attorney fees after punishing a professor for declining a male student's demand to be referred to as a female.
Nick Meriwether, a philosophy professor at Shawnee State University, responded to a male student's question during a January 2018 political philosophy class by saying "Yes, sir." When the class ended, the student identified to the professor as transgender, and demanded to be referred to as a woman in the future, along with "feminine titles and pronouns," according to the Alliance Defending Freedom, which represented the professor in court. Doing so, Meriwether maintained, would have violated his convictions as a Christian.
Meriwether didn't agree to the student's request, and court documents state that the student became belligerent and told the professor that he would be fired. The student filed a complaint with the university, launching an investigation which eventually determined that Meriwether "effectively created a hostile environment" for the student because he would not use the preferred pronouns. Meriwether did offer to call the student by any name requested, but the student did not accept the offer.
The table can be turned around on your argument too. Why should the student care what the professor calls him? If the student is secure enough in his “new” gender, then why does he care if some professor still calls him by his old gender pronoun?
Because most of these clowns are histrionics, they like to preen and whine and moan in public.
Hey kid! Nobody gives a damn about your pathetic personal life and hangups! Get over yourself!
And yes, I had a good laughing session when I read this story. The Ohio State University. Nice try, chumps.
Why did the college professor care in he first place? I have and had medical students who many times have asked me to call them by a different name than their Official first name, even have their Hospital badge or Student badge with the preferred name on it. I don't care and never have. I am not their mother or father, I am seeing patients and that is the focus. I teach them, I don't decide who they are nor would I want to, I have my own kids.
I guess I don't get why people care enough about this to insert their personal bias on the job when no one is paying you to do so. College professor is an employee and if he broke the rules of his employment and decided to die on that sword, that is his problem.
And the school looks like a public school, perhaps the professor should work at a private school where he can lean on religion or personal feelings to avoid using pronouns in way he has some personal bias against.
Because he believes that language should be a reflection of reality.
As for an employee breaking the rules, rules are often made by evil people. There used to be rules that allowed slavery. We now have documented cases of girls being raped in bathrooms and impregnated in prisons because of this garbage. It is evil, and needs to go the way of slavery, human sacrifice, and other horror that "rules" used to endorse.
Im not a religious person, but even if I was I wouldn’t be hurt by it. I don’t let my mental health be harmed by what others say. I know that I can choose to be offended by something or not, but my reaction is up to me.
That being said, I have an issue with compelled speech especially for something that’s not natural. When I look at an obviously male person and say him or he, I don’t want to be fired for it and I shouldn’t be fired for it. How is one person supposed to remember to call someone a they when they’re in a class setting and there are multiple people? I can barely remember people’s names sometimes.
You don’t get your own pronouns. If you want to refer to yourself in a certain way, fine, but you don’t get to force other people to take part in it. People really need to be encouraged to not worry about what others call them. It’s much better for your mental health.
Agree. As a liberal I will call a man he and a woman she. I realize that there is a very small number of people who probably do truly fall in between but lately this is just a fad and it will pass. I ignore it. The more we ignore it, the sooner it will go away. Do not cater to this fad. Just ignore it.
Agree. As a liberal I will call a man he and a woman she. I realize that there is a very small number of people who probably do truly fall in between but lately this is just a fad and it will pass. I ignore it. The more we ignore it, the sooner it will go away. Do not cater to this fad. Just ignore it.
I’m glad you see the problem here. I think the time to ignore it has long since passed.
I’ll ignore it when they stop trying to compete in women’s sports and go to women’s spaces. So far people have ignored it just long enough for our children to be indoctrinated and we are on the brink of losing women’s sports. Ignoring it got kids given experimental treatments to interrupt their growth and given cross sex hormones without even one session of therapy.
I’m afraid we are past ignoring the problem. A lot of young people are being harmed and that’s not right.
I’m glad you see the problem here. I think the time to ignore it has long since passed.
I’ll ignore it when they stop trying to compete in women’s sports and go to women’s spaces. So far people have ignored it just long enough for our children to be indoctrinated and we are on the brink of losing women’s sports. Ignoring it got kids given experimental treatments to interrupt their growth and given cross sex hormones without even one session of therapy.
I’m afraid we are past ignoring the problem. A lot of young people are being harmed and that’s not right.
Are your children indoctrinated?
How many people here reading this forum actually have a kid who identifies as trans?
According to this report from the Williams Institute (UCLA school of law) 0.7% of 13-17 year olds in the USA identify as trans, and 0.6% of adults, in 2017.
So how many kids do people know who've been "indoctrinated"?
I do believe there will be a very very small percentage of people who go along with it for reasons other than they are actually transgender, for attention grabbing reasons or other motivators. If it wasn't trans, it would be something else, like pretending to have cancer or something. But those people literally have issues that have nothing to do with actually having gender identity questions.
I do not agree with any gender affirmation treatment that does not include specialist doctors and psychiatric support.
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