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If Nance is deploying to Ukraine to offer his intelligence analyst services so be it. But why pose wearing a helmet, body armor complete with morale patches, a rifle and magazines? I served with a lot of men and women in the military intelligence community. Everyone of them I ever served with liked keeping a low profile and remaining in the shadows. A 61 year old retired Navy Chief Petty Officer should be above posing for photos that look like the cover of "Soldier of Fortune".
In Ukraine today, there is no safe headquarters building where he could sit behind a desk and hold meetings to give advice to Ukraine's military leaders. Anyone in the warzone needs to be able to protect themselves. I would expect him to be wearing body armor and carrying a weapon. It doesn't mean he is running out to the front lines with the younger soldiers.
In Ukraine today, there is no safe headquarters building where he could sit behind a desk and hold meetings to give advice to Ukraine's military leaders. Anyone in the warzone needs to be able to protect themselves. I would expect him to be wearing body armor and carrying a weapon. It doesn't mean he is running out to the front lines with the younger soldiers.
I'm very well aware of the conditions in Ukraine. But why the "Rambo" publicity photos and the bluster and tough talk on Twitter? As someone that served half of my military career in Marine Corps combat arms units I just have to chuckle. A Marine buddy said the same thing. "What's up with that? Why announce to the world that you're deploying to Ukraine?" That said, I do wish him well and that he remain safe during his deployment.
Last edited by irishcopper; 04-20-2022 at 11:06 AM..
A 60 year old is not going to fare well in combat out in the bush. I used to be able to spend 10 days out in the mountains carrying food, tent, and rifle. There is no way in hell I could do it now. Humping it out in the bush with no logistical support is pretty tough. Also, unless one is integrated as a part of a COMBAT TEAM, having individual 'Rambos" out there will do nothing. Military units are successful in tactics deployed as a TEAM and are not worth much as rogue individuals. Even to be a sniper, you need logistical support, a spotter, and a mission which helps the overall tactical plan. Snipers are used to occupy larger numbers of troops by essentially a "terrorism" mode to reduce easy movement. The purpose of a sniper is not to kill a large number of troops, but simply make them move slower and tie them down.
Also, one cannot transport firearms across international borders, so he is not going to be able to take his "gear" with him and would have to rely upon weapons/armor there. There is not enough to go around for the younger troops.
So these guys envision bringing in some nods, a flip thermal scope, a few thousand rounds of ammo, food, water filters, and body armor- great- you just can't take it there.
Unless someone is trained in combat, they will suffer the same fate as the german Volkstrum- they will be cannon fodder.
A 60 year old is not going to fare well in combat out in the bush. I used to be able to spend 10 days out in the mountains carrying food, tent, and rifle. There is no way in hell I could do it now. Humping it out in the bush with no logistical support is pretty tough. Also, unless one is integrated as a part of a COMBAT TEAM, having individual 'Rambos" out there will do nothing. Military units are successful in tactics deployed as a TEAM and are not worth much as rogue individuals. Even to be a sniper, you need logistical support, a spotter, and a mission which helps the overall tactical plan. Snipers are used to occupy larger numbers of troops by essentially a "terrorism" mode to reduce easy movement. The purpose of a sniper is not to kill a large number of troops, but simply make them move slower and tie them down.
Also, one cannot transport firearms across international borders, so he is not going to be able to take his "gear" with him and would have to rely upon weapons/armor there. There is not enough to go around for the younger troops.
So these guys envision bringing in some nods, a flip thermal scope, a few thousand rounds of ammo, food, water filters, and body armor- great- you just can't take it there.
Unless someone is trained in combat, they will suffer the same fate as the german Volkstrum- they will be cannon fodder.
I concur with all of that you've stated. To quote a Marine buddy "The problem with all these people deploying to Ukraine is the logistics nightmare that it is causing. A lot of people have zero military training even more have little infantry training. Then there is the communication barrier with all the different languages. Most are getting over there and realize there are no weapons for them." Then there is the matter of food, potable water, transportation and trauma care if they get wounded.
If he's deploying to Ukraine as an intelligence officer anyone that believes that Malcolm Nance has more insight about the war between Ukraine and Russia than our active intelligence community (CIA, NSA, DIA and the NGA) as well as British MI6 is either naive, been watching too much MSNBC or only read Nance's books. No doubt the CIA Directorate of Operations has people on the ground in Ukraine and Russia supporting the Ukrainians. The 16K plus international volunteers including 3K Americans are an ideal cover for them. I'm sure Joe and Kamala have no clue. Plausible deniability and all that.
Last edited by irishcopper; 04-21-2022 at 09:01 AM..
Malcolm Nance was a Cryptography Chief Petty Officer in the Navy. He's very knowledgeable analyst and published author on foreign affairs, intelligence matters and counter-terrorism. However, at age sixty I'm not sure that Nance has the combat arms skills necessary to be other than a liability to himself and others in combat in Ukraine. I hope that I'm wrong and do wish him well.
Maybe he is going to use his existing skillset and not actually pick up a gun.
Maybe he is going to use his existing skillset and not actually pick up a gun.
If Nance is deploying to Ukraine to offer his intelligence analyst services so be it. But why pose wearing a helmet, body armor complete with morale patches, a rifle and magazines? Why the "Rambo" publicity photos and the bluster and tough talk on Twitter? As someone that served half of my military career in Marine Corps combat arms units I just have to chuckle. A Marine buddy said the same thing. "What's up with that? Why announce to the world that you're deploying to Ukraine?"
I served with a lot of men and women in the military intelligence community. Everyone of them I ever served with liked keeping a low profile and remaining in the shadows. A 61 year old retired Navy Chief Petty Officer should be above posing for photos that look like the cover of "Soldier of Fortune". Regardless, I do wish him well and that he remain safe during his deployment.
As I stated in my previous post
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Originally Posted by irishcopper
If he's deploying to Ukraine as an intelligence officer anyone that believes that Malcolm Nance has more insight about the war between Ukraine and Russia than our active intelligence community (CIA, NSA, DIA and the NGA) as well as British MI6 is either naive, been watching too much MSNBC or only read Nance's books. No doubt the CIA Directorate of Operations has people on the ground in Ukraine and Russia supporting the Ukrainians.
It's not like he's Jack Ryan in a Tom Clancy novel and be immediately welcomed back into the intelligence community once he's on the ground in Ukraine. It doesn't work that way.
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