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The point I get from the OP is that we would have been better off if Trump hadn't started a trade war with China in the first place.
I disagree. OP was trying to discredit Donald Trump in his fight to rectify trade and labor law violations with China . He's doing this to bolster his candidate Joe Biden (which nobody likes). Trump was the only PRESIDENT TO FIGHT to try and rectify Trade law violations with China.
Do you really think Joe Biden has the backbone to do this?
The Chinese have been undercutting other countries out of the market for decades. The Chinese are notorious for stealing intellectual property developed and engineered in other countries by American, English, Japanese and Indian Engineers for decades ( this has been a constant theme and objection every un meeting for decades). The Chinese violate International labor laws making their labor cheaper than most any industrialized nations in the world. They violate human rights and human dignity laws against the Geneva Constitution. Where have you people been???
Why are posters playing dumb here ( is beyond me).
Other than you have political aspirations for your Leaders which have nothing to do with reality. China has long been an international Thief!___and you should not come here and pretend otherwise___ it's called hypocrisy!
On the plus side, other markets have developed and opened since US trade Wars with China continue.
We didn't start the trade war. It's been going on for decades now, and we've been losing. Trump was the first president to take a meaningful stand, although Obama did place some hefty tariffs (+300%) on Chinese steel. Trump stepped things up by placing broad, sweeping tariffs on just about everything from China.
Still waiting for Biden to reverse those tariffs that Trump put in place. He's free to do so whenever he wants... So what's holding him back??? Could it be because democrats love tariffs even more than republicans because tariffs are nothing but a tax???
I agree Biden should because it would help with inflation, but he won't because it would be political suicide.
The US has publicly demonized China and Russia for so long now, that any cooperation with either of them, despite benefiting US citizens, would be impossible.
Walking back of tariffs at this point would make Biden appear weak. As would a peace deal with Russia. The US would also lose all credibility internationally, even if these were the right moves to make.
We should be appalled at our leaders for putting us in this spot.
I disagree. The Chinese have been undercutting other countries out of the market for decades. The Chinese are notorious for stealing intellectual property developed and engineered in other countries by American, English, Japanese and Indian Engineers for decades ( this has been a constant theme and objection every un meeting for decades). The Chinese violate International labor laws making their labor cheaper than most any industrialized nations in the world. They violate human rights and human dignity laws against the Geneva Constitution. Where have you people been???
Why are posters playing dumb here ( is beyond me).
Other than you have political aspirations for your Leaders which have nothing to do with reality. China has long been an international Thief!___and you should not come here and pretend otherwise___ it's called hypocrisy!
On the plus side, other markets have developed and opened since US trade Wars with China continue.
What? Where have you been?
China does not have the lowest labor costs anymore. For years now. They continue being the country of choice for manufacturing because of a highly skilled, educated, disciplined workforce with a well functioning infrastructure and political stability.
India? What has China stolen from India? India can't even keep the lights on and install toilets for their citizens. They dig holes out back to take a ****.
India is to IT support as China was the factory in the 2000s. How's Flipkart doing? Tata? Who bought Jaguar and done **** with it? What else does India have?
China may have stolen in the past (who hasn't), but these days China leads in AI, 5G/6G, ML, mobile app development, math and sciences, etc.
India will have their time, but now is definitely not it.
What? Where have you been?
China does not have the lowest labor costs anymore. For years now. They continue being the country of choice for manufacturing because of a highly skilled, educated, disciplined workforce with a well functioning infrastructure and political stability.
India? What has China stolen from India? India can't even keep the lights on and install toilets for their citizens. They dig holes out back to take a ****.
India is to IT support as China was the factory in the 2000s. How's Flipkart doing? Tata? Who bought Jaguar and done **** with it? What else does India have?
China may have stolen in the past (who hasn't), but these days China leads in AI, 5G/6G, ML, mobile app development, math and sciences, etc.
India will have their time, but now is definitely not it.
Yup.
Yes indeed. You like others love to misquote and slander ppl who's view point is different than yours. Read closely grasshopper.
You are a great supporter of China (we see). We suppose all the violations of labor, intellectual property theft, currency manipulation, human rights violations, were all conjecture speculation and outright Lies told by alt media...and China is no longer committing these crimes (now you can go buy that 60 in Chinese made TV without conscious)!
Yes indeed. You like others love to misquote and slander ppl who's view point is different than yours. Read closely grasshopper.
You are a great supporter of China (we see). We suppose all the violations of labor, intellectual property theft, currency manipulation, human rights violations, were all conjecture speculation and outright Lies told by alt media...and China is no longer committing these crimes (now you can go buy that 60 in Chinese made TV without conscious)!
I disagree. OP was trying to discredit Donald Trump in his fight to rectify trade and labor law violations with China . He's doing this to bolster his candidate Joe Biden (which nobody likes). Trump was the only PRESIDENT TO FIGHT to try and rectify Trade law violations with China.
Do you really think Joe Biden has the backbone to do this?
The Chinese have been undercutting other countries out of the market for decades. The Chinese are notorious for stealing intellectual property developed and engineered in other countries by American, English, Japanese and Indian Engineers for decades ( this has been a constant theme and objection every un meeting for decades). The Chinese violate International labor laws making their labor cheaper than most any industrialized nations in the world. They violate human rights and human dignity laws against the Geneva Constitution. Where have you people been???
Why are posters playing dumb here ( is beyond me).
Other than you have political aspirations for your Leaders which have nothing to do with reality. China has long been an international Thief!___and you should not come here and pretend otherwise___ it's called hypocrisy!
On the plus side, other markets have developed and opened since US trade Wars with China continue.
The bottom line is that Trump put the US in a worse place with his trade war. I do think Biden will be tougher on China than Trump could ever of been. You can read about it here if you want.
Look at the tag on your MAGA hat. Where do you think it was made. Also, Ivanka Trump's trademark requests were fast tracked in China after the election of her father. I'm so sure that was a coincidence. You can read about it here: https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybe...h=cd605b91d60f
The bottom line is that Trump put the US in a worse place with his trade war. I do think Biden will be tougher on China than Trump could ever of been. You can read about it here if you want.
Look at the tag on your MAGA hat. Where do you think it was made. Also, Ivanka Trump's trademark requests were fast tracked in China after the election of her father. I'm so sure that was a coincidence. You can read about it here: https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybe...h=cd605b91d60f
Do you even know what the purpose was behind Trumps tariffs against China? I doubt it.
Former President Donald Trump claimed his strong tariffs forced the Chinese government in December 2019 to make a trade deal headlined by $200 billion in annual commitments to purchase U.S. exports. The reality: China ended up buying none of the promised goods and the trade war did little to change China’s economic policymaking while hurting the U.S. economy.
His analysis of new Commerce Department data shows that China only bought 57% of the total goods and services it committed to purchase in 2020-21, falling short of even the pre-trade war baseline of 2017. China ended up buying none of the additional $200 billion exports agreed to. In fact, U.S. exports to China likely would have been 19% higher without a trade war and the “phase one” agreement.
Biden was elected in 2020. china now had to deal with a mentally ill faux US president. What was biden going to do? NOTHING!
Remember Biden said China wasn't even competition for the US.
China owns Biden. All our enemies own Biden. they have the goods on biden's shady dealing.
If Trump was in office post 2020 guaranteed china would honor the contract or Trump would take action.
President Trump signed off on the “Phase One” trade deal China. Phase 1! all trump's deals were conditional with penalties. Like Afghanistan!!!!! Here is the deal..... benefits incremental, stick to the deal or incur penalties...... unlike the obama/biden deal with Iran where all the cash was paid upfront in the fantasy that Iran would not pursue nukes. Tell me more about Trump and how he negotiated deals and he just used the china deal for political advantage. That is not Trump;s style. Trump had the welfare of the country in mind. Unlike biden who never walked away froma deal that enriched him personally.
Oh, right, there were lock downs and a china virus swept the globe.
Former President Donald Trump claimed his strong tariffs forced the Chinese government in December 2019 to make a trade deal headlined by $200 billion in annual commitments to purchase U.S. exports. The reality: China ended up buying none of the promised goods and the trade war did little to change China’s economic policymaking while hurting the U.S. economy.
His analysis of new Commerce Department data shows that China only bought 57% of the total goods and services it committed to purchase in 2020-21, falling short of even the pre-trade war baseline of 2017. China ended up buying none of the additional $200 billion exports agreed to. In fact, U.S. exports to China likely would have been 19% higher without a trade war and the “phase one” agreement.
Or.....U.S. exports to China likely would have been higher without a worldwide lockdown. The purchases fell short of a PRE-PANDEMIC baseline.
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