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there is a big problem with your thinking... homosexuality was not invented by lady gaga... it is innate, natural and since the beginning of time... we have thousands of homoerotic poems, gay pagan gods, emperors, warriors. an entire western history documented about this sexuality, as with heterosexuality there is nothing new here... So it's not just the relationship between man and woman that is cerebrated... on the contrary, the role of women has always been downgraded following the real ones. traditions.
So, where is homosexual love celebrated in western canon literature or any classic tradition? Is there a homosexual version of Romeo and Juliet or Pride and Prejudice or Anna Karenina?
Why do you think heterosexual love completely eclipses homosexual love in western history and culture?
Actually the problem is with your thinking, not his. That poster even said he was not against homosexuality. There’s a big difference between accepting homosexuality and celebrating or even promoting it. If you don’t see the difference then it’s your thinking that is the problem.
Yep. YanMarcs demonstrated exactly what we have been saying about their wanting us to embrace their deviance and kiss their feet. A post that was not against homosexuality, therefore is an insult to him, because it did not glorify homosexuality.
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Why do you think heterosexual love completely eclipses homosexual love in western history and culture?
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As for your last question, the answer is simple Roman Catholic Church.
Nope. Were that the answer it would not eclipse homosexual behavior in other realms, but it does, in virtually every civilization, even those hostile to Christianity, until they reach the stage of civilization directly before they collapse.
Actually the problem is with your thinking, not his. That poster even said he was not against homosexuality. There’s a big difference between accepting homosexuality and celebrating or even promoting it. If you don’t see the difference then it’s your thinking that is the problem.
it's the same cheap speech that accepts homosexuality as long as it stays hidden and I keep making heterosexual propaganda and forcing that kind of sexuality on all human beings from an early age... No thanks.
Texts by Sappho... Plato... Socrates... Aristotle... there are several, just search.
As for your last question, the answer is simple Roman Catholic Church.
Okay, I was hoping for something closer to our times. But you make a valid point. Homosexuality seems to have been more prevalent and accepted in Ancient Greece than probably any other society in western history. I’m not sure about the reasons for this.
However, it was a pretty different social context from what existed in subsequent centuries.
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Nope. Were that the answer it would not eclipse homosexual behavior in other realms, but it does, in virtually every civilization, even those hostile to Christianity, until they reach the stage of civilization directly before they collapse.
That's where you're wrong my friend... as an American I understand that you don't dominate world history... but let me tell you that Christian Europe was largely responsible for the criminalization of homosexuality throughout its colonial territory....from Africa to Asia... homophobia today is a remnant of colonization...
The great dynastic China of the emperors never criminalized homosexual relationships, and even had gay gods and emperors... it was only after the influence of communism (political ideology born in Christian Europe) that the persecution began.
It is possible to trace a vestige of cultural homosexuality in almost all societies of the past before the Christian era and western influence... We were a plague in many societies for many people... but fortunately our time as world leaders is ending for the joy of the oppressed people.
it's the same cheap speech that accepts homosexuality as long as it stays hidden and I keep making heterosexual propaganda and forcing that kind of sexuality on all human beings from an early age... No thanks.
No, your closed mindedness is showing again. You are using words such as “stays hidden” to deceive. Promoting is not the same as coming out.
Do you understand the phrase “live and let live?” This is the motto of conservatives. You live the way you want to but don’t make me or my children celebrate it.
That's where you're wrong my friend... as an American I understand that you don't dominate world history... but let me tell you that Christian Europe was largely responsible for the criminalization of homosexuality throughout its colonial territory....from Africa to Asia... homophobia today is a remnant of colonization...
The great dynastic China of the emperors never criminalized homosexual relationships, and even had gay gods and emperors... it was only after the influence of communism (political ideology born in Christian Europe) that the persecution began.
what history book do you read. Couldnt be further from the truth. Additionally, all history states homosexuality was a factor in the fall of the Roman empire.
No, your closed mindedness is showing again. You are using words such as “stays hidden” to deceive. Promoting is not the same as coming out.
Do you understand the phrase “live and let live?” This is the motto of conservatives. You live the way you want to but don’t make me or my children celebrate it.
That’s what I don’t get with the liberal argument. We don’t discriminate against homosexuals. We now allow them to marry who they choose. Yet, why are they demanding us to celebrate and promote that lifestyle when almost no society in our cultural past did so? They want us to teach our children to contradict all of our traditions and the weight of history?
I don’t understand why liberals think this way, but I guess it is kind of courageous in a way.
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