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Old 04-23-2022, 03:04 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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So, you want to ignore the reality that humans are on a spectrum, and that a certain percentage of them prefer to be with same sex partners? Pull your head out and look at the real world.
There is a tiny percentage of humans who may be biologically homosexual or have gender dysphoria. But they do not represent the overall culture of society.

I don't support discriminating against people because of their sexual orientation or identity. However, I also don't believe we should be promoting LGBT lifestyles and values out of all proportion to their actual reality in our culture and society.

Our literature, philosophy and traditions celebrate the romantic love between a man and a woman - in whatever culture you observe. That is a bedrock of society and that is what I believe should be taught to children today and to future generations.
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Old 04-23-2022, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Metro Seattle Area - Born and Raised
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you are wrong. the majority of voters do not want corporations involved in political speech. Per the hill:

https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-amer...rporations-to/

Sixty-one percent of registered voters in the April 16-19 survey said it is not appropriate for corporations to engage in political speech.
I agree with you and I do not care what the company stance on any political or social issues are. If their product is good and serves my purpose, I’d buy it.

Yes, their are a few exceptions to this rule in my book, but neither flying the LGBT or BLM fit within these few exceptions.

Honestly, I’m glad that a business has chosen to be neutral in polarizing issues. This is where both Disney and Coke screwed up.

And no, I have no issues with the LGBT community, but I do have an issue with them forcing their views on kids in the grade of K through 8. As for BLM, they are a scam and do not serve that Black community one single bit and I’m half Black.
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Old 04-23-2022, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Phila & NYC
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My question stands.
How many major corporations have flown pride flags on the same pole as the American flag?

Many that I see usually have the pride colors on front digital displays. Exon says that will be allowed. Exon says flags on the lawn will be allowed. Not much of a start of something new.

Exon also said they will continue to participate and add sponsorship dollars to "Pride Parades".

The LGBT employees of Exon are over reacting to this as much as those here celebrating it.
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Old 04-23-2022, 03:34 PM
 
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So, two flags, eh. The US flag and the ExxonMobil flag. I've driven by their HQ and their massive Houston campus. Both had the company flag flying, in addition to the state and national flags.
As is their right. There is nothing wrong with flying the company logo.
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Old 04-23-2022, 03:36 PM
 
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That's all true. But, the way this was done is seen by the company's gay employees as a major slap in the face, after the company had been proclaiming its support for those employees.
Well, you have to admit the gay activists aren’t really offended by it so much as feeling like they are one step back. As Jazzy Jeff pointed out the employees are still allowed to put whatever flags or logos up in their own office spaces so it’s not a big deal.
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Old 04-23-2022, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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It's not about remaining neutral, it's about not making social justice statements.
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Old 04-23-2022, 03:41 PM
 
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That's all true. But, the way this was done is seen by the company's gay employees as a major slap in the face, after the company had been proclaiming its support for those employees.
They can support lgb employees without allowing flags. If they allow those flags they should allow all flags. I fall on the side of no flags except the US and state flag. The way to support lgb employees is to have same sex insurance and have non discriminatory hiring practices. Anything beyond that is either lip service or divisive.
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Old 04-23-2022, 03:47 PM
 
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In all fairness - 20 years ago our LBG Citizens were denied many Rights that those of us not LBG have.
I’ve always supported Equal Rights for all Citizens. There is not a single State that doesn’t require a Civil License for Marriage. It matters not whether people are “married” in a house of worship or in front of a Judge - the Civil License is required. A spouse in a same sex relationship was (and still can be) denied Health Insurance, could be denied from hospital visits. A Homosexual could be denied a job or housing, a teacher could lose her license to teach.

We needed to fight for Equal Rights, but somewhere along the way — just about the time that those Equal Rights were being attained, the Radicals in Gay Rights went nuts and it all became a Political battle.

The end game now is that a public that majorly supported Equal Rights no longer feels the same way they used to. When these Radicals go after Children, blackmail against their company policies and lawsuits against a Baker or a Florist because that Baker or Florist hold a belief against Homosexuality— it only hurts our LBG citizens. I’ve hated watching all of it.
My marriage license in the Great State of Texas stated I did not have an STD and created an equal partnership.

The vows we spoke before the congregation, the minister and our God were something entirely different.

All citizens should have the same rights. There was a TV program some years ago that ended their series with marriage between a character Denny Craine and another man. Neither were gay. It spelled out in fine detail the unfairness associated with marriage, tax law and inheritance. That may be some of the reason the gay people went nuts. Our tax and estate law favors married people.

AFA the baker goes, they were looking for a court case. All the baker had to say was we are booked up that day and the couple could have gone on down the road.
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Old 04-23-2022, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Western North Carolina
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Its the norm today for large companies and industry to take stands on popular issues. Exxon is living in the past if that is what they truly think, gone are the days when companies remain neutral on issues.

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"The norm" is not always the right thing to do.

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Old 04-23-2022, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Florida
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There is a tiny percentage of humans who may be biologically homosexual or have gender dysphoria. But they do not represent the overall culture of society.

I don't support discriminating against people because of their sexual orientation or identity. However, I also don't believe we should be promoting LGBT lifestyles and values out of all proportion to their actual reality in our culture and society.

Our literature, philosophy and traditions celebrate the romantic love between a man and a woman - in whatever culture you observe. That is a bedrock of society and that is what I believe should be taught to children today and to future generations.
^^^ This
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