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Old 04-29-2022, 04:20 PM
 
Location: NYC
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If we got rid of all unwanted children growing up in an unwanted environment we wouldn't stop at abortions. There are millions of unwanted children walking around supported by parents who cannot afford them.
Well good thing that is not the goal as I see it. I wouldn't leap to some draconian kill bot search and destroy end game.

Any child who is actually brought to term and born is here now, that ship has sailed, wanted or unwanted. May the force be with you.

This is a choice.

Think of it more like when an airline asks for volunteers for passengers to give up their seat. They don't have to, but the option is there and it will benefit the plane by not overcrowding it.

Do you blame the person making the choice? The person providing that choice?

 
Old 04-29-2022, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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So what?
Don't like abortion?

Don't have one.
 
Old 04-29-2022, 05:37 PM
 
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Planned Parenthood saved my life when I was a young woman fresh out of college who developed stage IV cancer. I would not have known what to look for or gotten into treatment so quickly without them. For many years later, they provided follow up care.

The honest assessment of Planned Parenthood is they offer reproductive health services that are accessible to people outside of a typical 9-5, M-F doctor's office hours at affordable prices.
Nazi concentration camps provided well paid jobs for the German economy. I guess that means we should overlook the whole deathcamp thing, huh?

The Red Herring/fallacious argument that because pp provides some good services, that means it is a good place, is bloodied by the fact that babies are killed there.

Anyway, I'm glad that your life was saved. We can't say the same for the 60 million+ babies that had their lives cut short.

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Old 04-30-2022, 03:01 AM
 
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Don't like abortion?

Don't have one.
Don't like slavery?

Don't have one.

Idiot logic.
 
Old 04-30-2022, 05:31 AM
 
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MLK favored birth control. PP @ the time that he accepted a PP award (Dr. King accepted the Margaret Sanger Award in 1966 from Planned Parenthood) was not promoting abortion.
"Planned Parenthood) was not promoting abortion."

You do NOT have to "promote" something most everybody already knows!
 
Old 04-30-2022, 06:21 AM
 
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And?

Are you disputing the statement that they don't kill 400,000 black babies every year?

"He was such a quiet guy. Nice neighbor." -- said anyone who ever lived next door to a serial killer.
That's 8-million in 20 years, none gainfully employed yet, supported mostly by single-parent minimum-wage mothers with a high incidence of substance abuse..
 
Old 04-30-2022, 07:33 AM
 
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" I was in my 20s and needed affordable health care and birth control."

At 20 you SHOULD have been smart enough to know about the BEST "birth control" there is.
"ABSTAIN
To keep oneself from doing, engaging in, or partaking of something; refrain."
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If she was married, your suggestion to ABSTAIN is ridiculous.

If she was not married, you are imposing your own morals on her and shaming her for having sex.

In all likelihood, you assumed she was unmarried. Shaming is always there, subtly or blatantly, in every discussion about abortion.
Would the suggestion be the same for a twenty year old man? Doubtful
 
Old 04-30-2022, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Camberville
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Nazi concentration camps provided well paid jobs for the German economy. I guess that means we should overlook the whole deathcamp thing, huh?

The Red Herring/fallacious argument that because pp provides some good services, that means it is a good place, is bloodied by the fact that babies are killed there.

Anyway, I'm glad that your life was saved. We can't say the same for the 60 million+ babies that had their lives cut short.

Wild thing to say to a Jewish person, bro.


There are currently 500,000 foster children in this country today, right this moment. How many are you providing stable, safe homes for? Or is that the orphanages (group homes) or someone else's job?

60 million fetuses developing into babies, many of whom would have fetal abnormalities as a result of poor maternal nutrition and limited prenatal care, would need 60 million homes. Who provides those homes? Who provides financial support to the mothers who would lose income, jobs, housing, etc? Or does none of that matter to you as long as babies are born?
 
Old 04-30-2022, 10:01 AM
 
Location: Camberville
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Originally Posted by newtovenice View Post
Don't like slavery?

Don't have one.

Idiot logic.

Better logic: want a baby to be born? Provide for both the mother and infant financially.
 
Old 04-30-2022, 10:11 AM
 
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Better logic: want a baby to be born? Provide for both the mother and infant financially.
The state does that quite nicely from cradle to grave.

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