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Old 05-16-2022, 02:24 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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I don't know how you managed to read that into 2Mares' quote, but that isn't what she meant - and I think you know that.
It's exactly what she meant.

The notion that stay at home mothers or stay at home fathers are too stupid and lazy to plan or prepare for a potential divorce or death of a breadwinner or working spouse is absolutely absurd.

"Stay at home parents are so screwed, if they get divorced, they're going to be homeless."

What a hilarious generalization and insult to parents who stay at home.

 
Old 05-16-2022, 02:54 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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I am a biracial Black man born in the 70s who is professionally employed, above average looking, masculine and athletic. Also, I look 15+ years younger. I have no luck with women that are younger than their late 30s. Most women I've dated were a little older than me.
Just go somewhere where people gather and people watch. Watching and admiring good looking women is fun, but don't gawk at them like you would an awesome sunset.
 
Old 05-16-2022, 03:29 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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I am a biracial Black man born in the 70s who is professionally employed, above average looking, masculine and athletic. Also, I look 15+ years younger. I have no luck with women that are younger than their late 30s. Most women I've dated were a little older than me.
Than you need a passport. You can't expect your local area to have endless potential partners.

Get on a plane and go to Brazil, Mexico, Dominican Republic, Thailand, Colombia, etc. and then come tell us how you've had no luck finding women.

If you prefer the local women in their late 30s, then keep doing what you're doing. If not, get a passport.
 
Old 05-16-2022, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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American women are snobs. Even the 2’s and 3’’s.
Ya know ... If a guy is getting turned down by American women, "even the 2's and 3"s", what's the common denominator there?

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the no. 1 reason why they can't let go is because the guy is quite well endowed and knows how to use it to give them supreme joy in bed.
This is satire, right? It must be. There can be no other reason for such cluelessness.

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It's exactly what she meant.

The notion that stay at home mothers or stay at home fathers are too stupid and lazy to plan or prepare for a potential divorce or death of a breadwinner or working spouse is absolutely absurd.
Ah, but that's not what you said. And you continue with the disingenuousness about your own posts. Bye bye.
 
Old 05-16-2022, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Humboldt Park, Chicago
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What I get a kick of is all the out of shape “thunder thighs” Henrietta’s on dating sites with 5 kids who haven’t been inside a gym their entire lives,….behaving as if they’re Farrah Fawcett, with laundry lists the size of Russia. Women dominate the online game and therefore get tons and tons of responses from men whereby men get hardly any responses. So women bask in all the attention and soak it up. Even the “two ton Tessies” of America. The ones where a guy would need 3 sixpacks and four shots of liquor in order to recognize her in a bar. But on Internet dating sites she is queen. And the worst women in the singles dating realm are women over 50. They’re like big entitled babies upon who many are mentally deranged. There’s nothing more hilarious then getting on dating sites and dealing with all these 2’s and 3’s who think they’re 9’s and 10’s. And so many over 50 are holding out for Robert Redford with riches. Even the 60 year olds who have one foot in the grave. They’re picky as heck!!! With all that makeup that makes her look like Bozo the clown. And the amount of jaded women on them dating sites is staggering. You would think they would not be on a dating site because they dont trust men, because all men are cheaters!! But they are Looking for validation and attention and holding out for the perfect man. Hence they get On a zillion dating sites where they also get a rush out of rejecting men. It’s all a big psychotic event and truly something to behold.
This is a bizarre perspective.
If these women are as revolting, difficult and unattractive as you believe, who are the dumb saps lining up to be rejected by them? Aren't these women just pricing themselves out of the market by doing this? It seems like a problem that corrects itself.
 
Old 05-16-2022, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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American women are snobs. Even the 2’s and 3’’s. Cmon. The whole world knows about American women. They’ll vouch for me. Even they know from great distances to avoid America women like the plague.
And yet American women on dating apps have soooo many messages, even the ugly ones, that it's unfair and also worth complaining about. But men avoid us, also. I mean, even the "logic" behind the argument is broken.

But this entire subject has for years and years on this site been nothing but a bunch of "reee reee gender wars" noise, so... /shrug. At least this time it's in the subforum designed for pointless dumpster fire conversations.

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Older women in American are not only jaded, but they’re even more shallow, demanding, and pickier then their 30 yr old counterparts. And they got one foot in the grave!!!!
Yes. Which is why the "market" thinking and leagues and looks matching is stupid. Because it does not take into consideration a very important thing about women's (not universal but common enough) dating behavior.

The fact that we are not static objects, we are human beings, which means that as we proceed through life, we gain wisdom. When we're young, we don't really have the wisdom to spot all red flags, to know how to slow one's roll into a relationship even when you feel over the moon with infatuation, we might be vulnerable depending on our life circumstances and need more help or support than our family of origin had to offer. Young people make mistakes. I know that this is very shocking news.

Older women though? Odds are we/they (I'm 43, not that it matters since I'm happily married...though when I was dating, I sure as hell didn't expect to ever marry again!) have learned from the mistakes made in youth. So being alone is often not a problem, and it sure as hell is not enough of a problem to put up with a garbage partner. So no, these older women are not going to settle. And a man who has a problem with being rejected by such a woman might do well to ask himself why this woman feels that she'd be happier alone, than with him.

And if you kinda hate women, you probably don't hide it as well as you think you do.

Older women who are being picky, have just decided that they don't NEED a man. They might be willing to take one on...if by some miracle she encounters one that is better than being on her own. But a lot of middle aged and older women are perfectly able to live a happy and fulfilling life with no man in their homes, and a lot of men are more hassle and bother than they're worth. Young women haven't learned that yet. Older women have.

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That doesn't make a difference.

Dating apps don't filter out fat people with kids. Even if they allowed people to enter their own weight, people would just lie.
Well, some guys are willing to date them. So? Dating apps don't filter out jobless stoner mooch dudes or smelly bald men with bad teeth, either. Like how dare anyone exist who is not highly sexually appealing? How dare they appear before my eyes and in my view? How dare every women not center their entire existence on remaining childfree and fit to compete for your love and yours alone? What a harsh world. I don't know how any of us manage to cope.

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Ha, if you narrow things down by taking a poll of only women who can't let go of men who verbally abuse them, domineer them, control them, are drug addicts or alcoholics and may even beat them, the no. 1 reason why they can't let go is because the guy is quite well endowed and knows how to use it to give them supreme joy in bed. Some such women may even say they never before knew a man in their lives who could give them so much joy in bed. So, really, when it comes down to women and when good looks of the man aren't everything to them, then next is that size is everything to them. But non good looking men may not be able to make up for it in their size. So is perpetual loneliness/sexlessness the "new normal" for today's men, due to lack of size? Yes, certainly to some extent.
Where are you finding these women, other than your fevered imagination or possibly fetish sites and porn?

The number one reason women can't let go of men who abuse them, domineer them, control them, are addicts/alcoholics, etc etc is that:

- There are kids involved and she's worried about the many ways in which a divorce will harm them.
- She is financially dependent and fears poverty or worse if she parts ways with the guy. And no, child support doesn't alleviate that fear because plenty of men job hop to avoid it or don't have the resources to pay it and survive on their own anyways. Being a single parent is incredibly difficult. Hell, in this economy, often enough just being a single PERSON is economically difficult.
- She has been raised around unhealthy relationship behaviors and because said abusive man is not (they pretty much never are) abusive ALL THE TIME, she fastens onto the good times and believes that she doesn't actually have it that bad and it could be worse. And is not at all sure that it could be better.
- Leaving an abusive man is terrifying. Our lives are more at risk, if they are at risk at all from such a person, when we attempt to leave than at any other point. And the danger doesn't end after the breakup, either. I've got a cousin whose ex broke into her home and murdered her in front of her kids. Because she broke up with him.

There is a term for women who think as you describe, they are "size queens" and they are pretty damn rare. It's a fetish. It's not normal. The vast majority of us get attached the the entire human, and find ways to enjoy whatever he's got goin' on there. And you can take it from a woman who has had some experience...

1. I had a husband who treated me badly, and he was in fact well endowed, but that situation does not prove your point the way you might think. Because within the first year I didn't even want him to touch me. We fought about sex all the time because he had abused my emotional trust to the point where I did not want to be intimate with him at all, and didn't enjoy it when I did. Why did I stay? Because for the majority of that marriage he wasn't bad to the kids, only to me, and I worked hard to compartmentalize it away where the kids couldn't see, and I stayed because the only reason to leave was for my happiness...and that would have made me "selfish." Which meant that I waited until we found rock bottom, unfortunately, when had I known where things were headed (no one has a crystal ball, though!) I might have spared my kids the trauma of that.

2. You don't appear to understand how female anatomy works. The best way to stimulate the vast majority of us, has nothing to do with a penis. There are educational sites and videos out there if you struggle with this concept. I recommend the work of Emily Nagoski. But you need to understand that porn is pretty much the worst teacher you can find to learn accurate sexual information about women.

3. The best lovers do not always have the biggest equipment. I've been with 2 who I would literally give some kind of award to for awesomeness in bed if it made any sense to do so...both were anatomically average, middle aged, "dad bod" kind of guys. Both were quite surprising and exceeded expectations. What they had in common? Where the magic was at? In their brains, attitudes and personalities. They had a sense of humor and creativity. They were playful, observant, experimental, and joyful in the act themselves. And the one I'm married to now can put me over the moon without even taking off his pants. Neither of them was some kind of incel-stereotype "dominant studly Chad" man.

So anyways...the misconceptions abound in threads like this, about women, about men, but more meaningfully just...about PEOPLE. And that is the most "wtf" part of these conversations to me always, like I really feel that some folks just need to get out more. The stuff comes off as a deep lack of understanding of one's own species. I mean, I was bullied as a kid, so I get feeling rejected by humanity and feeling isolated like that. But at some point as adults, we have to make and find new settings and opportunities. Unless you WANT to spend the rest of your life trapped in a misanthropic little bubble.
 
Old 05-16-2022, 03:51 PM
 
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I’ll keep it simple. Obese women with 5 kids on dating sites get a lot of messages too. Why you ask? Because there are men who are willing to date them you say? This is true to varying extents. Let me in enlighten you. In this situation the majority of men or simply looking for one thing. To get laid. Men will screw a wildebeest given a chance. And Because women are so irrationally picky on dating sites even the unattractive ones, men have no choice but to play the role as if they are genuinely interested when in reality all they wanna do is get laid. Often they have to don their beer goggles. Now if they come across a very attractive slender lady they will switch gears and become genuine and authentic and harbor a true desire to really get to know her in a normal fashion. Let’s get it right.
 
Old 05-16-2022, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Eh, let me just say the bars, dance clubs, strip clubs, etc are all very well stocked with happy men congregating while they sweet talk the ladies/men/transgenders/whatever they fancy. The man that is lonely and sexless is rare and have underlying issues.
 
Old 05-16-2022, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Flyover part of Virginia
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Men will screw a wildebeest given a chance.
LOL. Unfortunately, this is true. Men are horny bastards, and many of them are willing to have sex with anything even vaguely resembling a human female.
 
Old 05-16-2022, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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I’ll keep it simple. Obese women with 5 kids on dating sites get a lot of messages too. Why you ask? Because there are men who are willing to date them you say? This is true to varying extents. Let me in enlighten you. In this situation the majority of men or simply looking for one thing. To get laid. Men will screw a wildebeest given a chance. And Because women are so irrationally picky on dating sites even the unattractive ones, men have no choice but to play the role as if they are genuinely interested when in reality all they wanna do is get laid. Often they have to don their beer goggles. Now if they come across a very attractive slender lady they will switch gears and become genuine and authentic and harbor a true desire to really get to know her in a normal fashion. Let’s get it right.
I mean, I didn't really ask why.

And I assume that men who are just out to get laid, probably message the conventionally attractive women, too. I hear tell of this "numbers game" that men play on these sites. /shrug Whatever tickles yer pickle, guys!

Are you suggesting that women should do the same thing and hook up with the male wildebeests, just to get laid? Or what?

Or do you want there to be more sympathy for the desperation inherent in the male sex drive? You seem upset about something. Something related to how a thirsty man will hook up with anything, but the women don't seem to play that same exact game, and this is...a problem? For you? Or something?

Again, I don't see an issue with a woman, no matter what her age, looks or circumstances, making her own decisions about who meets the bar for "better than being on my own." I don't see why that decision should be anyone else's, nor why you or anyone needs to complain about how "picky" she is or isn't. It's her life. It isn't yours.

Now if she rejects a bunch of dudes and then complains about her solitude...her complaining would probably get pretty old. I doubt if I'd want to sit there and listen to such talk. But I haven't really met a lot of women who do that, most of the ones I know, if they say that they do not see much appeal in the options that they have, they get on with their lives...get hobbies, hang out with friends. Most of the older women I know are not really bothered about being single. Certainly they're not as upset about it as men seem to be.

But then...I've been part of a community where even people (male and female) who are not conventionally good looking, get plenty of action and options, so long as they've got their head on straight. But there was a man who showed up at a discussion group and went off on a rant about how horrible women are to men, and he got kicked out and banned. He thinks it's because he's male, despite the very obvious fact of how many men are part of the community and welcome in it. He now spends all his time protesting the place and screaming abuse, and he thinks that members of the group are sneaking at his house trying to poison him. He also believes that he is running for president.

Some people are simply incapable of understanding why they can't get what they want from others.

The mental health care options in this country really could be SO much better...and it's a damn shame.
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