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Old 05-01-2022, 10:53 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Honestly since this is C-D, can we REALLY be sure the Jews were against the Holocaust? Maybe they secretly supported the Nazis. This needs to be explored...
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Old 05-01-2022, 10:57 AM
 
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Sander's speeches = the Nazi platform.

Seize all private wealth,
nationalize all industry,
force government 'education' on everyone,
force everyone to work,
only allow party members to own firearms,
free healthcare to all,
free housing to all,
free guaranteed minimum income to all.

You know the regular Naxi platform that we fought in the 1940s.
Interesting, in that you're describing neither Bernie Sanders nor the Nazis. (Also, you may want to look up what happened to the actual socialists in the Nazi party in 1934.)

Incidentally, Germany had universal healthcare (and pensions) since 1883, instituted by that terrible left-wing socialist Otto von Bismarck.
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Old 05-01-2022, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Hillsboro Beach
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The Nazi repression in Ukraine continues: The genocidal beasts catch people on the street, seize their mobile phones and look at their notes and relationships with the media or people from Russia, their searches... Then they crucify and behead them.
Is the West crazy? Answer: YES.
IN GERMANY NOT EVERYTHING IS SIMPLE.
More than 54,000 people have already signed a petition asking German Chancellor Olaf Scholz to refuse to supply heavy weapons to kyiv. And earlier, more than 30 German journalists, musicians, artists, writers and playwrights signed an open letter to Scholz with a similar appeal. Cultural personalities warn the chancellor that this type of aid could lead the world to a third world war and make the FRG part of a conflict that Germany will not survive this time. (Who want war, because it will come)

Stop blaming Putin, because from 2014 to 2022 no one wanted to listen to him.
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Old 05-01-2022, 11:06 AM
 
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Stop blaming Putin, because from 2014 to 2022 no one wanted to listen to him.
Nah. He ordered his army across the border. On his head be it.

Love the bit about "Germany not surviving this time". Germany is a respected member of the international community. Russia - not so much.
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Old 05-01-2022, 11:07 AM
 
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The Nazi repression in Ukraine continues: The genocidal beasts catch people on the street, seize their mobile phones and look at their notes and relationships with the media or people from Russia, their searches... Then they crucify and behead them.
Is the West crazy? Answer: YES.
IN GERMANY NOT EVERYTHING IS SIMPLE.
More than 54,000 people have already signed a petition asking German Chancellor Olaf Scholz to refuse to supply heavy weapons to kyiv. And earlier, more than 30 German journalists, musicians, artists, writers and playwrights signed an open letter to Scholz with a similar appeal. Cultural personalities warn the chancellor that this type of aid could lead the world to a third world war and make the FRG part of a conflict that Germany will not survive this time. (Who want war, because it will come)

Stop blaming Putin, because from 2014 to 2022 no one wanted to listen to him.
What proof do you have to offer?
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Old 05-01-2022, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Toronto
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I will agree with that. US refused to compromise or negotiate back in Dec 2021 when Russians presented their positions. This is the result. It appears to me now that the globalist establishment, both Neolibs and Neocons removed Trump from office so this war could commence unimpeded. I didn't vote for Trump, but he was clearly against NATO and friendly with Russia and I think he would have worked it out with Putin, whether you like him or not. That wasn't the plan though so he had to go.
So Russia invaded Ukraine because of mean old Joe Biden? You people are too much. Russia is responsible for Russia and right now, Russia is committing war crimes on a scale not seen since…well, the last time they were involved in a military operation - Syria. That was probably Obama’s fault, right? And Bucha? That’s Biden’s fault. Phew. It’s a good thing you told me otherwise or I would have been pretty certain it was Russia that was responsible for its own behavior. Silly me!

Why oh why is the US forcing Russia to commit so much genocide? Oh, Saint Donald, please save us from ourselves. We are making Russia so mad, it is forcing them to do a genocide. We might die in nuclear blasts because Joe Biden will force Putin to destroy us all.

If the subject matter weren’t war and genocide, reading this nonsense would be funny.
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Old 05-01-2022, 11:14 AM
 
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What proof do you have to offer?
Also, 30 people an 50,000 signatures? That's not exactly impressive in a country of 84 million.

Heck, even the May 1st celebrations in Germany had a decidedly pro-Ukraine theme. And they for sure used to be where pro-Moscow people would gather.
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Old 05-01-2022, 11:51 AM
 
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Why oh why is the US forcing Russia to commit so much genocide? Oh, Saint Donald, please save us from ourselves. We are making Russia so mad, it is forcing them to do a genocide. We might die in nuclear blasts because Joe Biden will force Putin to destroy us all.
"But why does she talk to him that way? She knows what he's like when he's been drinking. He just can't control his temper."
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Old 05-01-2022, 12:02 PM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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No not at all and I must say that it's rather tiring to see the accusation of " Nazi " begin lobbed at anyone certain individuals happen to disagree with politically , as if Nazism were the only undesirable political stance worth opposing
As per the Wiki page on the National Socialist party of 1930, they had 25 'points' on their platform.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation...m_of_the_NSDAP

If you promote 20 out of 25, I think someone is going to make the assumption that you support the Nazi party.

I do not see how this can be painted over by saying that I disagree with their politics.

Nothing to do with a person' religion or heritage.

If you promote 20 out of 25 of the Nazi party platform points, I think it is justified to say that such a person is promoting Nazi ideals.
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Old 05-01-2022, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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As per the Wiki page on the National Socialist party of 1930, they had 25 'points' on their platform.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation...m_of_the_NSDAP

If you promote 20 out of 25, I think someone is going to make the assumption that you support the Nazi party.

I do not see how this can be painted over by saying that I disagree with their politics.

Nothing to do with a person' religion or heritage.

If you promote 20 out of 25 of the Nazi party platform points, I think it is justified to say that such a person is promoting Nazi ideals.
First of all, the platform is from 1920. Second, please tell us which of the 20 points overlap with Bernie Sanders. You’ve made a preposterous and meaningless assertion, and aren’t even willing to explain yourself.

In your world anyone can say anything because they don’t have to actually explain their argument and back it up with evidence. So, for example, I could say the modern-day Republican Party has more in common with the Bolsheviks than any other political movement in history, post a link to a Wikipedia page, dust off my hands and…my work here is done. I’ve just proven that the Republicans are bolsheviks.
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