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Originally Posted by ClaraC
That timeline description is confusing, as far as understanding the 6 week rush to get an abortion, and how quick it comes.
Yes, the period happens 12 to 16 days after ovulation in the typical woman.
BUT - and here's the clinch - by the time a woman's period is due, 14 days after ovulation, if she's pregnant, now she's 4 weeks pregnant. Because when you count weeks of gestation you count back to the first day of her last monthly period. By the time her period is due, she's counted 4 weeks pregnant.
So. By the time she is able to tell in a home test that she's pregnant, she has two weeks to obtain a legal abortion in Texas. Two weeks. AT THE MOST. Because sometimes, she ovulates early and is more than 4 weeks pregnant when she expects her period. And so when she takes the test the day she expects her period, she might think she has 2 more weeks to obtain an abortion, but not so. The baby might be two days older than that, and have a heartbeat.
Because a month after a sexual encounter that gets her pregnant, she's 6 weeks along by medical standards, and the baby's heartbeat has begun.
(Ironically, when she's two weeks pregnant she hasn't even had sex yet, is the upshot, and so at 6 weeks she's been carrying the embryo for 4 weeks. The joke is you can be two weeks pregnant before you meet the dad).
I was talking fertilization. And it seems that the TX 6 week time period starts at fertilization:
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the patient did not survive, the cause of death;
(6) the probable post-fertilization age of the unborn child based on the best medical judgment of the attending physician at the time of the procedure;
(5) "Pregnancy" means the human female reproductive condition that:
(A) begins with fertilization;
(7) "Unborn child" means a human fetus or embryo in any stage of gestation from fertilization until birth.
I keep hearing this "it's a financial decision" talking point. Do you have a link to what reasons are given for wanting to terminate pregnancies?
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"Reasons in 2004. Among the structured survey respondents, the two most common reasons were "having a baby would dramatically change my life" and "I can't afford a baby now" (cited by 74% and 73%, respectively—Table 2). A large proportion of women cited relationship problems or a desire to avoid single motherhood (48%). " https://www.guttmacher.org/journals/...e-perspectives
"Financial reasons
A financial reason (40%) was the most frequently mentioned theme. Six percent of women mentioned this as their only reason for seeking abortion. Most women (38%) cited general financial concerns which included responses such as “financial problems,” “don’t have the means,” “It all boils down to money” and “can’t afford to support a child.” As one unemployed 42-year-old woman with a monthly household income of a little over $1,000 describes “[It was] all financial, me not having a job, living off death benefits, dealing with my 14 year old son. I didn't have money to buy a baby spoon.” https://bmcwomenshealth.biomedcentra...472-6874-13-29
Should they also vary on interracial marriage, school segregation, same sex marriage. Leave it up to the states like the past abuses on voting.
Gun laws in states vary but they don't ban gun ownership, imagine if the put in legislation that closed gun stores in every state as they do for abortion clinics.
None of those are the issue at hand. Only abortion is.
States Rights to not carry over into violating the basic tenants of the Constitution, which is to guarantee the natural Rights of the individual. Slavery was not going to last long under the Constitution and the Founders who were not allowing themselves to be deceived understood that.
Interesting phrase you used: to guarantee the natural rights of the individual. A case could be made that the right to choose is a basic right of an individual woman. Thus the states should not infringe on a woman's right to control her own body.
Last edited by ansible90; 05-07-2022 at 02:36 PM..
No pregnancy test will tell you you are pregnant until at earliest 3 weeks gestation, and that is a blood test from a doctor. Minimum 4+ weeks for an OTC test. At 4 weeks pregnant that allows for 2 weeks to find a doctor, get an appointment, save funds, and get the prescription. Anyone who has tried to get a doctors appointment knows that there is generally a wait to get in.
Even if you test daily you aren't going to know any sooner than 4 weeks with an OTC test.
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Originally Posted by Wapasha
I didn't know that. Which makes any law banning abortions at 6 weeks a bit unrealistic.
Bingo. So how do we make Texas lawmakers understand that?
DETERMINATION OF PRESENCE OF FETAL HEARTBEAT
REQUIRED; RECORD. (a) For the purposes of determining the
presence of a fetal heartbeat under this section, "standard medical
practice" includes employing the appropriate means of detecting the
heartbeat based on the estimated gestational age of the unborn
child and the condition of the woman and her pregnancy
d) A physician making a determination under Subsection (b)
shall record in the pregnant woman's medical record:
(1) the estimated gestational age of the unborn child;
(2) the method used to estimate the gestational age;
The definition of terms is not the law.
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