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The trouble is the Left doesn't play by any rules. They will quote rules and use rules, but only so long as they control the rules.When the Right masters the rules and starts to use them, the Left insists on new rules.
In this case, the most radical elements of the Left want to pack the SCOTUS to "balance it" (by which they mean, make it rule in ways to favor us and grant us victories we can't get at the balance box) and end the filibuster in the Senate so we no longer have any compromise, but merely the whipsaw of majoritarian tyranny.
Precisely. Leftists are all too willing to play the dirtiest tactics but when they sense they may lose a certain battle, they cry foul.
They humiliated, threatened, slandered, smeared, and attacked Brett Kavanaugh on utterly false rape charges (with some of the women who accused him after Christine Ford came out with her lies admitting they'd never even met him). They called President Trump a racist and a warmonger. They screamed against "separating families."
But Bill Clinton bit off women's lips while he raped them. Tara Reade's allegations against Joe Biden were far more credible, but the left didn't care about her. Obama deported 1 million illegal aliens more than Bush 43 ever did, and the left was silent (save for a few aware activists).
After Trump placed 3 conservative judges on SCOTUS they began to talk about packing the court.
After Clinton lost in 2016 they talked about abolishing the Electoral College.
They blasted Trump for ONE strike on Syria and for killing ONE Iranian general, but they say nothing of sending dozens and dozens and dozens of millions of dollars to arm an extremely corrupt regime mired in war after that regime allowed Donbass Russian civilians to die to the tune of 14,000 since 2014 at the hands of armed Ukrainians, all the while endangering U.S. security by placing us closer to war with nuclear-armed Russia. They think conservatives are ignorant but they praise this meddling in a foreign war in a country which Barack Obama admitted posed no national security interest to the U.S. while ignoring how doing what Biden is doing now got U.S. targets destroyed by the Germans in previous conflicts.
So very many leftists are such two-faced, hypocritical, lying, shameless people. It's amazing that they somehow think they are morally superior.
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The 14th Amendment was not used to firmly apply the Bill of Rights on the states until 1925. …
Try 1866.
Corporations aren’t specifically mentioned in the 14th Amendment, or anywhere else in the Constitution. But going back to the earliest years of the republic, when the Bank of the United States brought the first corporate rights case before the Supreme Court, U.S. corporations have sought many of the same rights guaranteed to individuals, including the rights to own property, enter into contracts, and to sue and be sued just like individuals.
But it wasn’t until the 1886 case Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Rail Road that the Court appeared to grant a corporation the same rights as an individual under the 14th Amendment. The case is remembered less for the decision itself—the state had improperly assessed taxes to the railroad company—than for a headnote added to it by the court reporter at the time, which quoted Chief Justice Morrison Waite as saying: “The Court does not wish to hear argument on the question whether the provision in the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution which forbids a state to deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws applies to these corporations. We are all of opinion that it does.”
How the 14th Amendment Made Corporations Into 'People'
Under U.S. law, some essential rights of the 14th amendment belong not only to American citizens, but also corporations—thanks to a few key Supreme Court cases and a controversial legal concept known as corporate personhood.
Oh they most certainly do restrict ownership of some types of guns. That sets the precedent for states to restrict some types of abortion.
But they don't ban gun ownership, you can buy a gun in every state. When the supreme court does away with RvW at least 13 states will completely ban abortion. I guess you're taking the point of view that the current Texas law isn't a ban, just a rather large fine for abortion.
You never addressed interracial marriage should states be allowed to restrict marriage, Alabama just removed that restriction in 2020.
But they don't ban gun ownership, you can buy a gun in every state. When the supreme court does away with RvW at least 13 states will completely ban abortion. I guess you're taking the point of view that the current Texas law isn't a ban, just a rather large fine for abortion.
You never addressed interracial marriage should states be allowed to restrict marriage, Alabama just removed that restriction in 2020.
The full individual rights guaranteed by the Thirteenth, Fourteenth, & Fifteenth amendments were not recognized until the Supreme Court decision in Brown v. Board of Education in 1954 & laws such as the Civil Rights Act of 1964 & the Voting Rights Act of 1965.
Libertaryans still oppose the Civil Right Acts. Loud & proud.
Precisely. Leftists are all too willing to play the dirtiest tactics but when they sense they may lose a certain battle, they cry foul.
They humiliated, threatened, slandered, smeared, and attacked Brett Kavanaugh on utterly false rape charges (with some of the women who accused him after Christine Ford came out with her lies admitting they'd never even met him). They called President Trump a racist and a warmonger. They screamed against "separating families."
But Bill Clinton bit off women's lips while he raped them. Tara Reade's allegations against Joe Biden were far more credible, but the left didn't care about her. Obama deported 1 million illegal aliens more than Bush 43 ever did, and the left was silent (save for a few aware activists).
After Trump placed 3 conservative judges on SCOTUS they began to talk about packing the court.
After Clinton lost in 2016 they talked about abolishing the Electoral College.
They blasted Trump for ONE strike on Syria and for killing ONE Iranian general, but they say nothing of sending dozens and dozens and dozens of millions of dollars to arm an extremely corrupt regime mired in war after that regime allowed Donbass Russian civilians to die to the tune of 14,000 since 2014 at the hands of armed Ukrainians, all the while endangering U.S. security by placing us closer to war with nuclear-armed Russia. They think conservatives are ignorant but they praise this meddling in a foreign war in a country which Barack Obama admitted posed no national security interest to the U.S. while ignoring how doing what Biden is doing now got U.S. targets destroyed by the Germans in previous conflicts.
So very many leftists are such two-faced, hypocritical, lying, shameless people. It's amazing that they somehow think they are morally superior.
They didn't just "place 3 judges, they took away one of Obama's picks under a made up rule, wouldn't even allow Garland out of committee because it was only 9 months to election and the voters needed to decide. Then they approved Barrett 2 weeks prior to the 2020 election with a few million votes already cast. But sure it's the "leftists playing dirty".
This is what Trump and McConnell wanted, to get rid of RvW, they stated it in public. Now they have the 6-3 majority and they are ready to destabilize the country, politics come first in this activist court.
Where the 1st amendment said "Congress shall make no law.....", the 2nd made no such restriction to only Congress (i.e. the Fed govt).
So while the 1st amendment forbade only the Fed govt to restrict speech, religion etc., the 2nd forbade ALL governments in the U.S. to infringe the people's right to keep and bear arms.
When the Constitution was first adopted, most states had official state religions... and the 1st amendment was carefully crafted to not disturb that.
The 14th amendment changed the commands in the 1st amendment, to also apply to the State and local governments. But it had no effect on the 2nd amendment, which already applied to them as well as to the Fed govt.
The words in the Constitution actually mean what they say.
Read. Reading is key.
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None of the amendments applied to the states until the SC incorporated them after the post Civil War amendments were passed. That includes the 2nd Amendment.
I've already refuted that statement. In the post you quoted in your own post.
A case could be made that the right to choose is a basic right of an individual woman.
A very weak and short-lived case, since a woman (or man) does NOT have the right to "choose" to kill her baby, except in rare and extreme cases.
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Thus the states should not infringe on a woman's right to control her own body.
They don't. They rule on whether a woman has the right to "control" the body of her unborn baby, by deliberately killing it. And she clearly does not have that "right", except in rare and extreme cases (rape, incest, or if the life of the mother is in danger).
Abortion kills 26 times more than guns do per year.
Actually, abortions are safe when done by a qualified medical doctor. Very safe in fact. Guns are not.
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