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Old 05-14-2022, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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Originally Posted by Oldglory View Post
If a woman has been the victim of incest or rape wouldn't she immediately see a doctor? Makes sense to me. Why in the world would she wait 6 weeks when she knows she might have been impregnated?
Maybe she is afraid to tell her mother that her step father raped her.

Maybe she is too young to understand what was done to her.

Maybe she is traumatized, possibly in denial for several weeks

Maybe she takes BC pills or has an IUD so doesn't think of pregnancy right away

Everyone does not report rape immediately. Do you understand a woman will be very upset after being raped and may not be thinking clearly?

 
Old 05-14-2022, 08:27 PM
 
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Today abortions are legal.
Cool story. Meanwhile were talking about the topic that in the near future they will not be everywhere, and listening to GOP republicans say they will get a nationwide ban.

When people say who they are, believe them.
 
Old 05-14-2022, 08:30 PM
 
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If a woman has been the victim of incest or rape wouldn't she immediately see a doctor? Makes sense to me. Why in the world would she wait 6 weeks when she knows she might have been impregnated?
Seriously? You think a 12 year old being an incest victim by her father can just make a doctors appointment, without fear. She can’t even drive.
 
Old 05-14-2022, 08:31 PM
 
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One would think someone who was raped or a victim of incest would make up her mind before she reaches 24 weeks.

For me -
1. First trimester: Ok in almost all, if not all, cases
2. Second trimester: Ok in most cases
3. Third trimester: NOT Ok in almost all cases, with an exception for medical necessity, with the caveat that reasonable effort must be made to also save the baby.
We actually kind of agree.
 
Old 05-14-2022, 08:32 PM
 
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Cool story. Meanwhile were talking about the topic that in the near future they will not be everywhere, and listening to GOP republicans say they will get a nationwide ban.

When people say who they are, believe them.
I do believe them. They’ll push for it to be a national ban. Ban birth control then dismantle LGBT rights gay marriage and interracial marriage.
 
Old 05-14-2022, 08:43 PM
 
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So we at least agree on that. I don't make an exception under 24 weeks, you do. But some common ground is better than none.

Another question, what about a rape or incest victim? Should she be forced to carry to term?
I’m for choice in the first trimester which gives mom more than enough time to decide. A fetus is viable at 21 weeks.
 
Old 05-14-2022, 08:54 PM
 
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I’m for choice in the first trimester which gives mom more than enough time to decide. A fetus is viable at 21 weeks.
I’ve read at least 22 weeks and only 28 percent survive. They fair better at 24 weeks survival is I think 55 percent. An birth that early doesn’t mean survival.
 
Old 05-14-2022, 09:07 PM
 
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Ok, you people want States Rights 10th Amendment, but WHO is that? Governors? State Legislators? Or the PEOPLE in a State?
I don't know what you mean by State Rights 10th Amendment. The Tenth Amendment is about "powers" reserved by the states and people therein under the Tenth Amendment.
 
Old 05-14-2022, 09:25 PM
 
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I’ve read at least 22 weeks and only 28 percent survive. They fair better at 24 weeks survival is I think 55 percent. An birth that early doesn’t mean survival.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/alabama...-world-record/

Viability is 21 weeks. Most people have a cutoff point at some point. What’s yours?
 
Old 05-14-2022, 09:37 PM
 
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I do believe them. They’ll push for it to be a national ban. Ban birth control then dismantle LGBT rights gay marriage and interracial marriage.

The left really have lost their marbles, taking comedy too far.
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