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The whole point of "making America Great again" is to take us back to the 50s. Why do you waste your time denying it to me. You don't acheive your political goals in one day. Faustian bargain. Trump was everything that the Family Values crowd despised yet he delivered the biggest win of the day. You think we on the left are stupid to think that you guys are going to stop at Roe?
Further back, I'm afraid. They have been really working to dismantle the New Deal stuff, that was the 30s. They want to take us back to the Great Depression, where much to their dismay, the government did not just turn its back and let tons of Americans die in a ditch.
Amazing how the main position that Biden has legitimately committed to, and the one that the right most wants to fight, is actually the infrastructure and social safety net stuff that was implemented by FDR. And yet as per usual, we all get dragged by our noses into the outrage porn and culture wars.
So here's a thought I've had... As a liberal woman who can't have any more kids (tubal ligation, impending middle age, etc) maybe I ought to move and take my blue vote to a red state? I work from home now, I can live anywhere that has decent internet. Maybe organize some kind of a movement to fight the agenda by further mixing states ideological balances? See who, if we are not concentrated and gerrymandered, has the REAL majority in this country? Whaddya think? Hell, I've got friends whose lives are not directly affected by things like abortion bans, and if we pooled our money we could afford one hell of a mansion in flyover country. Might be nice.
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Originally Posted by MissTerri
Most pro choicers for abortion are pro mandaters for vaccines. They cannot scream, “my body my choice” or talk about bodily autonomy and be taken seriously by anyone.
Nah. I chose to get vaccinated and boosted. I was never for mandates. No one was, to my knowledge, forced by law or government to get Covid shots. As for private businesses such as airlines, workplaces... I can't tell them what to do. I mean, you really think that the government should have forced private businesses to not have their own rules about masks and shots? Funny how freedom and private enterprise is only something ya'll care about if it's going your way, huh? "Freedom for all the people, unless I think you're wrong!" (reference to a song, which will now be stuck in my head.)
I don't give a damn if conservatives want to get vaxxed or not. It's your life. We can see how it all shakes out in the end, with this gamble. If you guys are right, then those of us who chose to get the shot will suffer in the end for it, and if we're right, more of you will get severe cases of Covid and die. But if your hospitals in your areas lose the capacity to care for you, well...sorry about your luck. I mean, it was your choice. I just wanted for vaccines to be available for everyone who wanted to get them. That's all.
No Texas allowed someone to file a lawsuit against Texas abortion providers not an out of state person.
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Originally Posted by MJJersey
NJ, NY, and CA have already invited women to their states to get abortions. If those states can do that, I don't see why other states can't try to prevent it. One interesting thing Congress could do now, if it had a majority of pro-lifers, would be to regulate interstate commerce by making it illegal to travel from one state to another for the purpose of abortion.
This would be equal to California passing a law could sue someone in Texas for selling a gun that resulted in death inside California. Congress will never have a majority of "Pro-lifers" the majority does not support this.
Then are you ready to raise these babies that are not wanted??
It's NO ONE'S BUSINESS but the woman who is pregnant. It TRULY DOES NOT AFFECT YOUR LIFE UNLESS YOU ARE THE FATHER
Doesn't affect our lives if mothers drown their children in the bath tub. It doesn't affect us personally if someone murders people we have never met either.
NJ, NY, and CA have already invited women to their states to get abortions. If those states can do that, I don't see why other states can't try to prevent it. One interesting thing Congress could do now, if it had a majority of pro-lifers, would be to regulate interstate commerce by making it illegal to travel from one state to another for the purpose of abortion.
Try that
Are you ready to set up border crossings on all roads between states? Everyone gets waved through except women of childbearing age who must take a pregnancy test on their way to work every day and then if pregnant, somehow prove to the state border guard they are not on their way to an abortion doctor or clinic.
Let's try not to get ridiculous with alternate ideas.
Further back, I'm afraid. They have been really working to dismantle the New Deal stuff, that was the 30s. They want to take us back to the Great Depression, where much to their dismay, the government did not just turn its back and let tons of Americans die in a ditch.
Cite the legislation that Republicans voted on to turn its back on people to allow "tons of Americans to die in a ditch."
I am so sick of the demented notion that Republicans want to literally KILL people. When you spout such ridiculousness, everything else to have to say will be completely ignored. Good luck with that.
Are you ready to set up border crossings on all roads between states? Everyone gets waved through except women of childbearing age who must take a pregnancy test on their way to work every day and then if pregnant, somehow prove to the state border guard they are not on their way to an abortion doctor or clinic.
Let's try not to get ridiculous with alternate ideas.
People on both sides of the political scale can say the most ridiculous things.
I hope the SCOTUS does what they are supposed to do, which is uphold law according to the constitution. The constitution does not state the right to abortion. This is something that should never have been done at the Supreme Court level. It does not matter what your opinion of abortion is. It is the law according to the constitution that matters. Period.
My personal choice is that abortion be banned completely, but my choice should have no bearing on this and nor should that of someone who wants abortion up until and during birth. Neither matters. What matters is that the SCOTUS never had the authority to make the R v W ruling they did and that needs to be corrected.
No Texas allowed someone to file a lawsuit against Texas abortion providers not an out of state person.
This would be equal to California passing a law could sue someone in Texas for selling a gun that resulted in death inside California. Congress will never have a majority of "Pro-lifers" the majority does not support this.
I thought the Texas law allowed a law suit against anyone who assisted a woman to get an abortion, such as a friend who drove her to the appointment. Out of state person would be a different issue though.
Doesn't affect our lives if mothers drown their children in the bath tub. It doesn't affect us personally if someone murders people we have never met either.
Can an embryo live out side the body without medical technology not a living person.
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