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It always happens. People love to overstate blue collar incomes. In another thread a guy claimed that college kids could work part time in the oilfield and earn at $80,000-$120,000 rates. Of course that's nonsense. I have full time mid-career derrick-men who make in the $80s.
Yea this board is so full of crap most of the times. As usual it comes down to politics as the reason.
It always happens. People love to overstate blue collar incomes. In another thread a guy claimed that college kids could work part time in the oilfield and earn at $80,000-$120,000 rates. Of course that's nonsense. I have full time mid-career derrick-men who make in the $80s.
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Originally Posted by SeminoleTom
Yea this board is so full of crap most of the times. As usual it comes down to politics as the reason.
Interesting. I remember back in '08, when the union auto workers were in the news, many here overstating how much they made, and having issue with it.
I've been in the trades all my life, my dad as well, and probably 90% of the people i associate with. None of us are rich, but the majority of us are around the 6 figure range. Some more, some less. Add a spouse that works and that is a pretty solid middle class income, at least here in Michigan.
Between third party money and other variables too many are in college unnecessarily. Especially youth because they are too young to appreciate/realize what college can do. Just as many over estimate the value of a degree. Their goals and motivation yet aren't there yet. Many adults have more specific reasons and/or motivations because they can see the payoff even if it's job requirements.
Between third party money and other variables too many are in college unnecessarily. Especially youth because they are too young to appreciate/realize what college can do. Just as many over estimate the value of a degree. Their goals and motivation yet aren't there yet. Many adults have more specific reasons and/or motivations because they can see the payoff even if it's job requirements.
I'm not going to argue that many kids are going to college today that in previous decades would not have. But the drop out rates haven't changed much for the last fifty or sixty years.
When I started not quite fifty years ago we were told that half wouldn't come back for their 2nd year and of those who did return half wouldn't get a degree.
Wrong. My wife went to college a few years ago AND worked full-time while attending classes in the evening. She got her 2-year at the community college and got her A.S. and then transferred to George Mason University for her B.S.. She still accumulated over $60K in loans. Schools are overpriced.
This was my experience as well, but all of my student loans were from grad school. I paid for my undergrad on credit cards, which I eventually paid off after grad school. The biggest expense was that I was living on my own at the age of 18.
If your so informed on the trades, you would know a lot of electricians in the NE anyway, get paid by a days work, averaging $300-$500, $700 for the expensive guys. What are you talking about?
Thats false and illegal. They are paid by the hour.
People routinely earn six figure incomes working in the trades, and they do not have $40k-$100k in student debt to drag them down.
If they own their own company.
Working for someone else... About $18 to $22 an hour to start working to around $30- $40 maybe $45 an hour unless you are in the union or working Davis Bacon projects.
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