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Old 05-04-2022, 02:26 PM
 
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That poster mentioned a lifetime of parenting. I’m as responding to that. People seem to think it’s ok to just tell people to move or get a new job or quit college when it comes to vaccine mandates but act like being pregnant is impossible. Why not support choice for both?
Not getting what the Left is Up-in-Arms about..??

...the Federal Government is saying 'This is a case we no longer hold as valid' --- We leave the decision up to Individual States....WHAT'S THE PROBLEM?


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Old 05-04-2022, 02:27 PM
 
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That poster mentioned a lifetime of parenting. I’m as responding to that. People seem to think it’s ok to just tell people to move or get a new job or quit college when it comes to vaccine mandates but act like being pregnant is impossible. Why not support choice for both?
Some women abort because they can’t continue to work or go to school. All choice has consequences that includes abortion or refusing to get vaccinated for your job if it’s required. I think people should stand up for what they believe in. Don’t want a vaccine don’t get one, same for abortion.
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Old 05-04-2022, 02:36 PM
 
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Some women abort because they can’t continue to work or go to school. All choice has consequences that includes abortion or refusing to get vaccinated for your job if it’s required. I think people should stand up for what they believe in. Don’t want a vaccine don’t get one, same for abortion.
If workplaces can require vaccines as a condition of employment, they should also be able to deny employment to women over reproductive choices including abortion if they disagree with abortion.
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Old 05-04-2022, 02:43 PM
 
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If workplaces can require vaccines as a condition of employment, they should also be able to deny employment to women over reproductive choices including abortion if they disagree with abortion.
Just how is the employer going to know the woman was pregnant and had an abortion?
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Old 05-04-2022, 02:45 PM
 
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Just how is the employer going to know the woman was pregnant and had an abortion?
How would they know if I did or did not have a vaccine.

I was FORCED to sign an affirmation I had the vaccine.

An employer could ask as a condition of employment that you affirm you never had an abortion.
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Old 05-04-2022, 02:48 PM
 
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How would they know if I did or did not have a vaccine.

I was FORCED to sign an affirmation I had the vaccine.

An employer could ask as a condition of employment that you affirm you never had an abortion.
Being vaccinated comes with a vaccination record, unless it’s a forgery. Pregnancy isn’t contagious. How do you prove you’ve never had an abortion?
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Old 05-04-2022, 02:49 PM
 
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Just how is the employer going to know the woman was pregnant and had an abortion?
It doesn’t matter. If they find out, they find out.
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Old 05-04-2022, 02:59 PM
 
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It doesn’t matter. If they find out, they find out.
How? Women still have the right to medical privacy. No employer requirements, as of yet requires a woman never having an abortion.
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Old 05-04-2022, 03:07 PM
 
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How? Women still have the right to medical privacy. No employer requirements, as of yet requires a woman never having an abortion.
Medical privacy was not allowed for vaccines. A precedent was set with that. There is no reason why abortion could not be added to the list.

Honestly, I wonder why you don’t just support the right to choose for both instead of trying to figure out how an employer might find out.

Maybe they see something on social media? Maybe someone mentions something. There are lots of ways. If you support at will employment involving bodily autonomy, the door is wide open for all kinds of employer abuse, beyond vax mandates.

I remember when people freaked out because Hobby Lobby wouldn’t pay for their employee’s birth control. The same people upset over that are likely the same ones who support vaccine mandates.
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Old 05-04-2022, 03:17 PM
 
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If I am pregnant and I do not want to be, it's my choice to terminate that pregnancy.
If I am pregnant and someone else decides to do something that results in my pregnancy being terminated, it is NOT my choice.


Interesting response - but -



If someone hits you in the nose - you don't get to press charges twice - once for you, and once for your nose. So not really a good comparison. One crime was committed. Assault to your face.



Back to the original q...?
It's all about choice. But everyone knows that already.
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