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Old 05-04-2022, 06:10 PM
 
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Why would they do that when big govt will cover what the father would do. $$


We all get to pay for either abortions or raising the kid. Costs? Probably about the same in the end game. Tax payers lose. In the mean time we have millions of illegals scamming the system too so ... pay your taxes suckers.
That's called section 8. Yes I think it was Florida that made such a fight about Housing coming in their retirement area for section 8 they were very upset since they would be getting brand new condominiums for damn near free. Now they mix section 8 with everyone else so no one will notice. At least not until it's to late. Imagine paying thousands for a condo and then to find out the neighbor next to paid nothing and it was paid on your taxes while you pay all that money.
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Old 05-04-2022, 06:14 PM
 
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It's called a condom. Hear about those?
A condom is not a chastity belt since it’s easily removed by the wearer.
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Old 05-04-2022, 06:15 PM
 
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Should women be sown up until they can provide?
No can't be reversible.

to the OP, I'm not sure that can be done since the newborn would not have been through puberty. To young I would think.
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Old 05-04-2022, 06:24 PM
 
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Sure. And then charge each woman $500,000 per child.


Be careful what you wish for. This scenario will work out AWESOME for women.

No one is controlling women's reproductive choices but women.

Use BC and have sex with a man who respects you. Billions of women manage to not get pregnant every day.
Exactly!
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Old 05-04-2022, 06:35 PM
 
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Yep. The men get the women pregnant in the first place so snip 'em. Men get off scott free while the woman's life can be ruined. In many cases the woman didn't want sex but the man pressured her or told her he would stay with her forever or said he would love her. So she gave in. Or maybe the man got her drunk and she gave in. Men are the aggressors and they should be held equally accountable.

Prohibiting abortion is a big mistake and it's aimed at hurting women. It often hurts men too, such as an engaged couple or even a married couple who wanted to wait until they could afford to have kids. But snip the men--sure--.
There are sexually aggressive women around as well.
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Old 05-04-2022, 06:38 PM
 
Location: minnesota
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So you want to give government the right to decide who can and cannot resproduce? What could go wrong?
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Old 05-04-2022, 06:40 PM
 
Location: minnesota
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Wouldn't it be easier to just strap on chastity belts?
Ahhh...you said "strap on".
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Old 05-04-2022, 06:41 PM
 
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Yep. The men get the women pregnant in the first place so snip 'em. Men get off scott free while the woman's life can be ruined. In many cases the woman didn't want sex but the man pressured her or told her he would stay with her forever or said he would love her. So she gave in. Or maybe the man got her drunk and she gave in. Men are the aggressors and they should be held equally accountable.

Prohibiting abortion is a big mistake and it's aimed at hurting women. It often hurts men too, such as an engaged couple or even a married couple who wanted to wait until they could afford to have kids. But snip the men--sure--.
Wow.

Someone hates men.
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Old 05-04-2022, 06:44 PM
 
Location: minnesota
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The libs want the government to pay for women to live entirely so they can go and enjoy all of what life has to offer with no responsibilities or accountability of any sort.

If we really want to stop population growth, stop giving food to poor countries where people breed like rabbits. Teach people to fish, don't give them fish.

Stop giving handouts and rewarding people FOR having kids out of wedlock. Make them live in the streets and rely on the generosity of others. We wouldn't have so many lonely men out there if women had to date boring "provider" guys rather than relying on the government to pay for their kids while they date the "bad boys" and "fun guys" ... I see it happen all the time.

Should we snip males... an interesting thought. The problem with that is that could be argued to be an authoritarian mandate and a slippery slope towards outright tyranny such as what China has. I'd rather have maximum freedom with maximum responsibility.

So, your objection to abortion is that it keeps a woman from dropping her standards enough to get you laid?
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Old 05-04-2022, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Coastal Mid-Atlantic
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This is nonsense. Whether you are a man or woman, you choose who, when, and how you have sex with someone. This is an issue of personal responsibility regardless of gender. The solution to this is to be selective about who you sleep with and only do so if you're able to accept the potential consequences.

When a woman is raped. Thats another issue. Should she be made to carry that full term. Then be a mother to a child thats possibly already on parole when its born.
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