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Why do you think Newsweek allowed that article to be titled "Louisiana Law..."?
lazy?
stupid?
intentional for partisan reasons?
While we're asking the experts, what are these 13 states with "trigger laws"? I've asked, but haven't gotten a good answer.
There's 1 state with such a law passed. There's a 2nd...under consideration?
And there's several states (could be 11) that have abortion as illegal, but these laws all pre-date Roe in 1973.
Are these the aggrandized "trigger laws" the pro-choice side is propagandizing?
If a state still has pre-Roe abortion bans on the books, that law becomes active again if Roe is reversed.
13 states have passed so-called 'trigger laws,' bans designed to go into effect if Roe v. Wade is overturned
Here is a list and description of the trigger laws.
Except when its to inject a drug on millions of people by force. Then the government should be involved in our personal lives. Since when the left isn't involved in our personal lives? You liberals crack me up.
Millions of WOMEN are PRO LIFE. I don't understand that men should shut the hell up comment. Should millions of pro life women has no say in a democracy?
Government didn't force a vaccine. Yet, conservatives are forcing women to give birth without caring about their circumstances. You guys aren't pro life. You are pro birth. You care nothing about these kids once they are born. These laws will affect the poor most. So I guess you will be supporting them since many will be on welfare.
Except when its to inject a drug on millions of people by force. Then the government should be involved in our personal lives. Since when the left isn't involved in our personal lives? You liberals crack me up.
Millions of WOMEN are PRO LIFE. I don't understand that men should shut the hell up comment. Should millions of pro life women have no say in a democracy also ?
There are barrier methods and hormonal methods of BC. The pill is hormonal. There has been a movement to outlaw them since they first came out because many say they cause an abortion.
Justice Alito wrote the majority opinion in Burwell v. Hobby Lobby in 2014 in which he equated certain forms of contraception with "abortifacients”.
Government didn't force a vaccine. Yet, conservatives are forcing women to give birth without caring about their circumstances. You guys aren't pro life. You are pro birth. You care nothing about these kids once they are born. These laws will affect the poor most. So I guess you will be supporting them since many will be on welfare.
Yes they did. They made threats for millions of people to get injected by a drug or lose their jobs or attend college and push the narrative that they were extremists and a danger to society.
Conservatives don't want to kill massive babies. I say they care a lot more than Liberals that don't want any regulation.
Conservatives have lots of support for kids after they are born. More than any country in the world at anytime in world's history and why millions of poor foreigners come here to bring their kids or have their kids here. So what you say it's another lie that conservatives don't care.
Sorry, We just have a different view how to help the parents in how to provide for their kids and it should be the parents #1 responsibility to care for them and not the government. You liberals want the government and keep them poor permanently poor and dependent.
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Yes they did. They made threats for millions of people to get injected by a drug or lose their jobs or attend college and push the narrative that they were extremists and a danger to society.
Conservatives don't want to kill massive babies. I say they care a lot more than Liberals that don't want any regulation.
Conservatives have lots of support for kids after they are born. More than any country in the world at anytime in world's history and why millions of poor foreigners come here to bring their kids or have their kids here. So what you say it's another lie that conservatives don't care.
Sorry, We just have a different view how to help the parents in how to provide for their kids and it should be the parents #1 responsibility to care for them and not the government. You liberals want the government and keep them poor permanently poor and dependent.
Well what are you doing about the hundreds of thousands of kids currently in our foster care system. You are forcing women to have a baby that they probably can't afford to take of. So it's up to the state to provide. It's you who want's to keep them poor and dependent on government. You complain about people on welfare yet here you are wanting to add more to the system.
It actually boils down to their PERSONAL OPINIONS!
If someone personally agrees that a certain right, should be violated...naturally, they are never going to defend that right, and they have no problems violating others rights in the same way!
The drug law problem is a great example...people PERSONALLY believe drug laws should be in place...so they have no problems with Govt or police violating THOSE rights, but if its something they support, they will defend the right, like with abortion/ pro choice.
Its funny to listen to these people who claim to oppose Govt getting into what we do with our own bodies, (with certain things, they support it fully...but others, they claim Govt doesnt have that right...so its basically dependent on their own personal opinions). LOL They will NEVER admit this though!
If you paid any attention or had any knowledge about the subject you would know there are those in some religions who strongly oppose the pill and always have. They want it off they market.
Then read up on how movements get started and progress into changing cultures and laws.
Arlo Guthrie can tell you all about it in Alice's Restaurant. It only takes 3.
Sure, the movement referenced in Alice's Restaurant was in opposition to the Vietnam War and, particularly, the military draft that was in effect.
I remember the protests against the war and the refusal of many young men, at the time, to be drafted into the military.
That could certainly be considered an anti-war/anti-draft movement.
So, where are the anti-birth control protests?
Has anyone self-immolated at a CVS or Walgreens to draw attention to the evils of spermicidal foams and latex condoms?
Any anti-birth control folk songs you can reference?
state legislature websites have listed bills for the legislative session. unless they can point to a specific proposed bill, it is just left wing emotional fear tactics
If you paid any attention or had any knowledge about the subject you would know there are those in some religions who strongly oppose the pill and always have. They want it off they market.
If you paid any attention or had any knowledge about the subject you would know it's not part of the conservative platform.
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Then read up on how movements get started and progress into changing cultures and laws.
Arlo Guthrie can tell you all about it in Alice's Restaurant. It only takes 3.
You're basing your premise on a song? hahahahahahaha
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