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You may know that Christian evangelicals used to be pro-choice. They had no problem with abortion. Apparently even Billy Graham was fine with it.
Now, just happened to see Christiane Amanpour interviewing a guy named Frank Schaeffer. I've never heard of him, but he supposedly was instrumental, as a young man, in pushing pro-choice evangelicals to flip to anti-abortion fanatics, partly because he was randomly looking for a project, trying to earn money. And he now very much regrets it and is open about saying so.
From the interview:
"I look back on what I did in my youth maybe the way I guess some people would at wartime experiences or political experiences maybe in the 1930s in Europe, if they had joined one of the fascist parties, lived to see it play out in a World War and what happened. I feel much that level of regret and culpability...
Now, I have to be honest, and it saddens me, that, at the time, it was also the idea of another paycheck...
If this group of people was pro-life, and actually were consistent in their pro-life position, you could have some admiration for them, while disagreeing on the matter of choice. But they are an anti-family group of people who put the welfare of billionaires in this country ahead of children, ahead of women, ahead of poor people, ahead of families. They’re not even for paid parental leave. They’re not for the child tax credit. They do nothing for children in terms of schools and education."
Billy Graham once said, “I know it’s common today to think of abortion as a simple answer to an inconvenient problem—but it is actually a far more serious issue. Your child isn’t simply a mass of tissue; he or she is a human being in God’s eyes.”
You may know that Christian evangelicals used to be pro-choice. They had no problem with abortion. Apparently even Billy Graham was fine with it.
Now, just happened to see Christiane Amanpour interviewing a guy named Frank Schaeffer. I've never heard of him, but he supposedly was instrumental, as a young man, in pushing pro-choice evangelicals to flip to anti-abortion fanatics, partly because he was randomly looking for a project, trying to earn money. And he now very much regrets it and is open about saying so.
From the interview:
"I look back on what I did in my youth maybe the way I guess some people would at wartime experiences or political experiences maybe in the 1930s in Europe, if they had joined one of the fascist parties, lived to see it play out in a World War and what happened. I feel much that level of regret and culpability...
Now, I have to be honest, and it saddens me, that, at the time, it was also the idea of another paycheck...
If this group of people was pro-life, and actually were consistent in their pro-life position, you could have some admiration for them, while disagreeing on the matter of choice. But they are an anti-family group of people who put the welfare of billionaires in this country ahead of children, ahead of women, ahead of poor people, ahead of families. They’re not even for paid parental leave. They’re not for the child tax credit. They do nothing for children in terms of schools and education."
i fully expect the right to have legislatures try to make more and more narrowing laws,
and given the average Americans knowledge of what their party's support it will drive away a percentage large enough to matter in national elections, when they realize it
Overturning it is not an attack on women.
It is not Christians or Church or pro lifers
turning back the clock on women.
It is about returning the power back to the 50 states
and not the government so that their voters will have
the final decision. Whatever state we live in we must
abide by it's laws. If we don't like where we live we can
move to a state that supports our views. I think that's great.
I worked in New York my whole life and now want
to move to another state that treats retirees better.
People move all over the country for many reasons.
Some for hunting,some for sunshine etc......
Why not include abortion?
Don't let the Politics lie and tell you different.
The government does not want to tell a woman
what to do with her body. It wants the voters and
the states in which they reside to make that decision
Removing RvW does nothing on its own. It removes the federal guardrails from states legislating abortion as they see fit.
Removing RvW can allow a state to make abortion illegal... it can also allow states to make abortion legal thru full term.
For the politicians... removing RvW removes the cover that has allowed them allowed make abortion legal without making a legislative vote on record, which then holds them accountable. They have used the cover of the Supreme Court to make abortion legal all over the country for 50 years.
God is pro life, otherwise He wouldn't have bothered with any of us.
Psalm 22:10 - Upon You I was cast from birth;
You have been my God from my mother’s womb.
So does that mean God approved of the birth of Hitler and Stalin? If so, I wonder if World War II would have been aborted if those two had been aborted.
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