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Would you please stop assuming that everyone in this country should think like you were taught to do in your religion.
We all do not think there is a "someone" in the pregnant woman's belly in the early weeks of pregnancy.
That is a lie. Maybe one you are telling to yourself as well. You know very well there is someone in there. You just believe that person hasnt yet earned the right to be protected under the law. That someone should still be able to make a decision to end that person because they dont wish to be a parent. But there is no way you dont beieve there is someone in there.
That is a lie. Maybe one you are telling to yourself as well. You know very well there is someone in there. You just believe that person hasnt yet earned the right to be protected under the law. That someone should still be able to make a decision to end that person because they dont wish to be a parent. But there is no way you dont beieve there is someone in there.
Obviously you and I disagree on that. I look at when sentience occurs and when the baby is born and takes its first breath. You are free to think differently.
Either way, I do not think this issue should be decided based on religious beliefs.
BTW it is not a lie to believe differently than someone else. We are all giving our opinions here.
Obviously you and I disagree on that. I look at when sentience occurs and when the baby is born and takes its first breath. You are free to think differently.
Either way, I do not think this issue should be decided based on religious beliefs.
BTW it is not a lie to believe differently than someone else. We are all giving our opinions here.
No, you dont care about when "sentience" begins. That is a conjured up logic to justify abortion. Me and you do not disagree that there is someone in there, we both know that. I just believe that person deserves to be protected by law and you dont.
No, you dont care about when "sentience" begins. That is a conjured up logic to justify abortion. Me and you do not disagree that there is someone in there, we both know that. I just believe that person deserves to be protected by law and you dont.
I told you what I believe. Please don't twist it around to fit your idea of how you think someone else should think on an issue.
That is a lie. Maybe one you are telling to yourself as well. You know very well there is someone in there. You just believe that person hasnt yet earned the right to be protected under the law. That someone should still be able to make a decision to end that person because they dont wish to be a parent. But there is no way you dont beieve there is someone in there.
I don't believe a fertilized human egg is a "someone" or a person any more than I believe a fertilized chicken egg is a chicken, or a sprouted seedling is a tree.
It is absolutely inappopriate for him to refuse a vasectomy and tell you to get your tubes tied. Also, BC has side effects and my wife experienced them and I wasnt going to obligate her to take them. My sister in law had a blood clot from BC and it was a very serious health scare. I dont see the point in dicussing this stuff in an abortion conversation. The fact is that the baby is here and if you think that you cant just "end" it then who cares what decisions led up to it?
I guess it makes people feel better to attack other people's bad decisions. I am happy to discuss that but I think this it belongs in this discussion.
I agree with your first few sentences, but you confused me with what I bolded. What baby is here that you are talking about? And what is that whole sentence saying?
And yes, while my comments veered a bit away from the OP, they certainly address those who keep saying "Well the woman should just use BC or keep her legs closed." In the context of marriage that is utterly stupid advice. And if I, in that difficult spot in my marriage, had ended up pregnant due to husband's refusal to even consider having a vasectomy, I would have wanted the option to terminate that pregnancy. I most definitely did not want to be a late 40-something mother, when I already had 3 teenagers by that point.
I told you what I believe. Please don't twist it around to fit your idea of how you think someone else should think on an issue.
Nobody honestly believes that. People make a decision that they thing people should have the right to hit the cancel button after they find out the woman is pregnant. Then they try to come up with a logic for why it is ok.
I don't believe a fertilized human egg is a "someone" or a person any more than I believe a fertilized chicken egg is a chicken, or a sprouted seedling is a tree.
Do you believe this is a person?
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Oh my god! Such a cute baby! I want to pinch its little cheeks! Btw, is that a lobster baby?
I agree with your first few sentences, but you confused me with what I bolded. What baby is here that you are talking about? And what is that whole sentence saying?
And yes, while my comments veered a bit away from the OP, they certainly address those who keep saying "Well the woman should just use BC or keep her legs closed." In the context of marriage that is utterly stupid advice. And if I, in that difficult spot in my marriage, had ended up pregnant due to husband's refusal to even consider having a vasectomy, I would have wanted the option to terminate that pregnancy. I most definitely did not want to be a late 40-something mother, when I already had 3 teenagers by that point.
The "baby" I am referring to is that clump of cells in that woman's womb that will continue to grow unless someone intervenes and ends its growth.
Kay, I am not blaming you for straying. I just wanted to address that the matter of what happened prior to conception isnt imporant in this dicussion. I feel like the other person wants to speak negatively about these women and attack their life choices and somehow that makes him feel better about himself. "Oh that is an irresponsible ****, her preferences dont matter." But this discussion is about what happens next, not what happened before.
Today, are you happy that you didnt abort the child or are you now happy that he/she is alive?
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