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It has happened again in Buffalo. We had a deranged lunatic walk into a grocery store to murder innocent people. It doesn't matter that the rampage was racially motivated because the results were the same, innocent dead and injured people and a shooter that had once been on the radar of the FBI.
How many times have we seen this play out. The FBI is called in to question the actions, threats, social media postings or some other sick and twisted crimes and they let the guy go.
The FBI had interrogated the Buffalo shooter for a day and a half. Someone somewhere had raised a red flag over this kid and the FBI took it seriously enough to interview him.
Has this ever happened to you? Do you know anyone that has been interrogated by the FBI?
I know of another guy that was, the mastermind behind the Boston Marathon Bombing. The FBI was warned about him, they had him and let him go.
Of course pulling someone in to question them for something they did or threatened is one thing but this is America and holding them is a different story.
What could be done in these cases where people are deemed dangerous enough to talk to but not so much to hold them is they could be put on a list, like a no fly list but in this case it would be a list to prevent them from buying a Legal gun.
If the FBI hauls you in you are put on the list for 5 years or until you can prove that you are capable of owning a gun. After the 5 years you can be interviewed again and you may or may not be approved.
We do this for our elderly when they get to be too diminished to safely operate another potentially deadly weapon a motor vehicle so why not do it to those that are living on the fringe of sanity?
I believe in the Second Amendment but what the Founding Fathers could have never foreseen when they penned it was the ability of a troubled person or criminal being able to buy a gun and use it on innocent people.
If someone pops up on the FBI's radar chances are they had to have done something criminal or on the fringe of criminal to get them noticed and that person should be sanctioned with their name on a no buy list. If they already have guns then those will have to be sold or moved to another person for holding.
Too many times the FBI has had someone under suspicion and they are let go to carry on and eventually murder and maim.
What say you?
Nothing you can do.
Better parenting. Better family values. Both political parties have gotten carried away with all their agendas, so politicians need to stop making everyone’s life more difficult. Dems are far worse than the GOP
It has happened again in Buffalo. We had a deranged lunatic walk into a grocery store to murder innocent people. It doesn't matter that the rampage was racially motivated because the results were the same, innocent dead and injured people and a shooter that had once been on the radar of the FBI.
How many times have we seen this play out. The FBI is called in to question the actions, threats, social media postings or some other sick and twisted crimes and they let the guy go.
The FBI had interrogated the Buffalo shooter for a day and a half. Someone somewhere had raised a red flag over this kid and the FBI took it seriously enough to interview him.
Has this ever happened to you? Do you know anyone that has been interrogated by the FBI?
I know of another guy that was, the mastermind behind the Boston Marathon Bombing. The FBI was warned about him, they had him and let him go.
Of course pulling someone in to question them for something they did or threatened is one thing but this is America and holding them is a different story.
What could be done in these cases where people are deemed dangerous enough to talk to but not so much to hold them is they could be put on a list, like a no fly list but in this case it would be a list to prevent them from buying a Legal gun.
If the FBI hauls you in you are put on the list for 5 years or until you can prove that you are capable of owning a gun. After the 5 years you can be interviewed again and you may or may not be approved.
We do this for our elderly when they get to be too diminished to safely operate another potentially deadly weapon a motor vehicle so why not do it to those that are living on the fringe of sanity?
I believe in the Second Amendment but what the Founding Fathers could have never foreseen when they penned it was the ability of a troubled person or criminal being able to buy a gun and use it on innocent people.
If someone pops up on the FBI's radar chances are they had to have done something criminal or on the fringe of criminal to get them noticed and that person should be sanctioned with their name on a no buy list. If they already have guns then those will have to be sold or moved to another person for holding.
Too many times the FBI has had someone under suspicion and they are let go to carry on and eventually murder and maim.
What say you?
I have not come across anything that claims the FBI hauled in this guy and interrogated him BEFORE his rampage. Did I miss something?
I am aware that as a part of a school assignment last year about plans, post graduation, the shooter wrote he intended on murder/ suicide. The school notified the county sheriff and the then 17 year old was evaluated by mental health professionals, not the FBI. Who knows? Maybe he blew it off as a joke and was remorseful. Kids say a lot of stupid stuff.
He has no criminal history. Obviously, it was determined at the time he was no danger to himself or others.
Reportedly, he had a job at a local grocery store for a few months. Nothing thus far indicates he was employed. He drove the family car to Buffalo. Wonder where his parents thought he went?
He legally bought the firearm. Savings? Birthday $? Gift?
Reportedly, he grew up with and around guns and ammunition. Was his family aware their unemployed son had acquired a semi- automatic and body armor? Was it unusual?
Most parents can’t imagine their child is capable of a mass shooting of random strangers. The “ it’s not so bad” thinking that results in rationalizing unusual behaviors.
Nuts will always be here. Never be able to get rid of them. And even if he isn’t able to use a firearm he could kill 19 people with a knife like this mass stabber:
Good grief — We’ve had three recent serious race hatred domestic terrorist events.
Black racist drives over and injures 50 white parade people and kills seven in Waukesha, WI White racist shoots and kills ten blacks in Buffalo, NY Chinese racist who hates Taiwanese shoots up a church and kills one in Laguna CA
[b]This is getting really bad and needs to stop…..
end the war on drugs and dispense them faitly stricly by prescription to bring down urban violence and crime...
require gin owners to carry insurance just as car owners do these simple steps would help
Car insurance does not stop car accidents and fatalities... How is "gun insurance" going to stop mass shootings??? Do you think there are any killers who would have never killed if only they had gun insurance??? It sounds like you didn't even think of the question, you just want to impose this on gun owners just for the heck of it.
And let's just for a second entertain this idea further... There are people who drive cars without insurance. Do you think there won't be gun owners who won't purchase gun insurance if such a thing was imposed???
I just can't fathom how anyone could think adding a financial transaction on top of the other expenses gun owners pay is going to solve anything. It will just give more money to bureaucrats, insurance companies, maybe provide some jobs so people can push insurance policies on others... That's about all that would happen. And the mass shooters wouldn't even notice.
And there's tons of drugs on the street. Prescribing them to people won't do anything to solve this problem either. You likely advocate this idea as a solution to a wide variety of problems whenever the opportunity presents.
It has happened again in Buffalo. We had a deranged lunatic walk into a grocery store to murder innocent people. It doesn't matter that the rampage was racially motivated because the results were the same, innocent dead and injured people and a shooter that had once been on the radar of the FBI.
How many times have we seen this play out. The FBI is called in to question the actions, threats, social media postings or some other sick and twisted crimes and they let the guy go.
The FBI had interrogated the Buffalo shooter for a day and a half. Someone somewhere had raised a red flag over this kid and the FBI took it seriously enough to interview him.
Has this ever happened to you? Do you know anyone that has been interrogated by the FBI?
I know of another guy that was, the mastermind behind the Boston Marathon Bombing. The FBI was warned about him, they had him and let him go.
Of course pulling someone in to question them for something they did or threatened is one thing but this is America and holding them is a different story.
What could be done in these cases where people are deemed dangerous enough to talk to but not so much to hold them is they could be put on a list, like a no fly list but in this case it would be a list to prevent them from buying a Legal gun.
If the FBI hauls you in you are put on the list for 5 years or until you can prove that you are capable of owning a gun. After the 5 years you can be interviewed again and you may or may not be approved.
We do this for our elderly when they get to be too diminished to safely operate another potentially deadly weapon a motor vehicle so why not do it to those that are living on the fringe of sanity?
I believe in the Second Amendment but what the Founding Fathers could have never foreseen when they penned it was the ability of a troubled person or criminal being able to buy a gun and use it on innocent people.
If someone pops up on the FBI's radar chances are they had to have done something criminal or on the fringe of criminal to get them noticed and that person should be sanctioned with their name on a no buy list. If they already have guns then those will have to be sold or moved to another person for holding.
Too many times the FBI has had someone under suspicion and they are let go to carry on and eventually murder and maim.
What say you?
What say I is I agree with you.
Just follow the laws on the books and this 18 year old never ever gets to purchase a firearm nor ammo.
Two words: due process. The FBI can pull anyone in at any time to talk to them, doesn't make them dangerous. All it would do is have the FBI start pulling in lots of people just to deny them gun ownership. How many people do the FBI interrogate, but never do anything? Do we have that number?
Rights more important than saving lives? What about the rights to life itself?
There is no way to prevent this from happening. The only thing we can do at this point is to arm up and carry legally.
I doubt this dude would’ve started shooting if he noticed a bunch of people walking around armed. All these shooters are looking for soft targets. None of them are interested in dying as soon as they pull out their gun and get one or two shots off.
In the vast majority of cases, they will stand down.
In 2016 there was a protest in Dallas about a Police shooting. It attracted about 800. About 30 open carry activists also attended, some wearing gas masks, armor and fatigues. There were about 100 officer present when the shooting started.
Unknown at the time, a lone gunman ambushed the Police. He killed 5 and wounded 9 officers. 2 civilians were also shot.
The armed ran for their lives no diff than the unarmed. This created a perception that gunmen were hunting the crowds.
Several of the armed became persons of interest and several turned themselves in. All were cleared.
The Las Vegas mass shooting killed 60 and wounded 411. An additional 456 people were injured in the ensuing panic. Then venue was a gun free zone as most entertainment venues are. What might of happened had attendees been able to carry? Many perceived shots were coming from within the venue. Some perceived shots came from the 4 th floor of the hotel. No one grasped the source was a corner suite on the 32nd floor and the shooter was alternating windows.
In 2019, a lone gunman opened fire in a Walmart in El Paso. 23 were killed and 23 wounded.
There were about 3000 people inside the store and in the parking lot. No question there were armed people in the store and parking lot.
If not, why waste and effort? Why lose the opportunity to cement into people's minds why they are reveiving the death penalty?
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