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Old 12-18-2022, 06:00 AM
 
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Some more from Girkin.

“…Victory over Ukraine, the final defeat of the AFU, are impossible…”


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKCdfLFNZUk
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Old 12-18-2022, 06:11 AM
 
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Some more from Girkin.

“…Victory over Ukraine, the final defeat of the AFU, are impossible…”


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKCdfLFNZUk
Is true.
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Old 12-18-2022, 06:49 AM
 
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NYT article by Michael Schwirtz, Anton Troianovski, Yousur Al-Hlou, Masha Froliak, Adam Entous and Thomas Gibbons-Neff summarized:

"A detailed, in-depth, and sober look at the mistakes Russia made, both in their assumptions about Ukraine before beginning the invasion and in the execution of the war. That analysis finds exactly the sort of things we’ve been talking about for months: A blind assumption that the West was weak, and would turn it’s back on Ukraine; intelligence information that was more concerned about currying favor than accuracy; a Russian military that has been gutted by corruption to the point where whole units are ineffective; and a simple failure to execute shot through with inept leadership. Also, that demon logistics."

"It’s a story of failure at absolutely every level: Russia’s intelligence was little more than decorating pages with what Putin wanted to hear. The vaunted “cyber” units that were effective at creating chaos in presidential elections were actually useless at doing real hacking. Communications were awful—in many instances, fatally so. And at the highest level Russia seemed to have no mechanism for learning from mistakes or adapting to new situations on the ground. They just made the mistakes again. And again."


https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2022/...Russian-nation


Seems Putin has set up a system where only he can make decisions and the decisions he's made are an "unbelievably destructive act of hubris; a nightmare being sold as a dream. "
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Old 12-18-2022, 06:53 AM
 
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Bakhmut still stands.

Latest reports have Ukrainians holding the residential areas, and Russians continuing their attacks.

If Putin wants a win to bolster moral, he might want to consider some other battle.
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Old 12-18-2022, 07:10 AM
 
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A major and very long article in today's NY Times about how ill-prepared the Russian military is for Putin's war in Ukraine. Worth the cost to get past the paywall, dirt cheap actually.

Byline: "Russian soldiers go into battle with little food, few bullets and instructions grabbed from Wikipedia for weapons they barely know how to use."

[…]

Much much more in the article, great photographs, copies of Russian documents, a day's worth of reading.
The documents include timelines given to the forces, for anyone doubting that the original plan included taking Kiev in a few days.
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Old 12-18-2022, 08:00 AM
 
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You've already seen evidence that the price cap is effective. You asked for numbers, I showed the sources, which opined that Russia was settling for a $40 discount. Nice try, though, at pretending it was all made up.
Fail.

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You have failed to produce anything that stated Russia was selling oil at $35 a barrel. Your fictional 'facts' must be self-soothing but should be heavily discounted.



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Maybe the price will get to $90 again, but Russia won't be participating. As you showed, they have to accept a steep discount because no one wants to deal with them, and everyone knows they are willing to make deep discounts in order to keep their wells pumping.
Oil or no oil, Russia's fate is sealed. If they manage to generate some revenue it will postpone their death, but they will still die.
Mostly incorrect again. The world is not unified against Russia, there are still a lot of countries aren't interested in sanctions.
I don't see Russia 'dying', they have too many resources that the world needs.

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Old 12-18-2022, 08:41 AM
 
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Russia continues to flail.
Russia spent $500-$700 million in the latest cruise missile terror attack and it took Ukraine 2 days to fix most of the damage.
Over half the missiles were shot down and Kyiv is back online now. Electrical service and water are both back on.
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Old 12-18-2022, 08:41 AM
 
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Russians are regarded around the world as little more than mobsters and war criminals. I doubt that opinion will change any time soon.

It will be interesting to see what will happen to those that align themselves tie Russia. Iran, for example. Or India.
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Old 12-18-2022, 08:54 AM
 
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More fires and explosions in Russia.On Dec 17 there was a large fire at a confectionery factory in Vladivostok, Russia. It covered 2,000 square meters, collapsing the roof of the main building.
On Dec 15, Moscow Times reported 2 people were killed in a massive explosion at Siberia's largest oil refinery. No word on what caused either fire.


There have been over 50 such fires since March.
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Old 12-18-2022, 09:18 AM
 
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More fires and explosions in Russia.On Dec 17 there was a large fire at a confectionery factory in Vladivostok, Russia. It covered 2,000 square meters, collapsing the roof of the main building.
On Dec 15, Moscow Times reported 2 people were killed in a massive explosion at Siberia's largest oil refinery. No word on what caused either fire.


There have been over 50 such fires since March.
Thanks for the link. Article on the Dec 15 incident says:
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Local investigative authorities have opened a criminal case into safety violations.
The explosion comes less than a month after a smaller fire broke out at the refinery on Nov. 27, causing no injuries.
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