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Old 05-29-2022, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Corona del Mar, CA - Coronado, CA
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And you are posting here in politics ?
Sorry if my wit is too sharp. Kissinger was last relevant in 1972. He's been a defeatist ever since then.
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Old 05-29-2022, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Todays Update

https://twitter.com/TheStudyofWar/st...49383789215744

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New reports confirmed that #Ukrainian forces conducted a successful limited counterattack near the #Kherson-#Mykolaiv oblast border on May 28, forcing #Russian forces onto the defensive.
https://twitter.com/TheStudyofWar/st...52868987256833

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The head of #Kherson’s occupation administration walked back previous statements that Kherson would join Russia automatically, indicating that #Ukrainian partisan activities may be disrupting efforts to consolidate control.
https://twitter.com/TheStudyofWar/st...51561543028736

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Reporting by #Russian and #Ukrainian sources indicates that Ukrainian troops likely conducted a counter-offensive south of the village of Davydiv Brid and east of the Inhulets River on May 28.
https://twitter.com/TheStudyofWar/st...51422191562752

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#Russian forces focused on maintaining their positions north of Kharkiv City and fired on surrounding settlements on May 29.
https://twitter.com/TheStudyofWar/st...51332454387712

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#Russian forces continued to assault #Severodonetsk on May 29 but did not make any confirmed advances; Russian progress in intense urban combat will likely be slow.
https://twitter.com/TheStudyofWar/st...19162826555392

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Here are today's CoT maps from
@TheStudyofWar
and
@criticalthreats
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#Ukrainian forces have launched a new counteroffensive in southern Ukraine. #Russian forces have reportedly rebuffed some Ukrainian attacks but lost territory to others.
More details here
https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...essment-may-29
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Old 05-29-2022, 06:19 PM
 
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I am a fan of Lithuania. They stand up to the CCP in support of Taiwan. Now they stand up to Russia in support of Ukraine. I love how patriotic their people are.

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Old 05-29-2022, 06:23 PM
 
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Sometimes, all ya can do is smile.
Russians "withdraw"; Ukrainians "flee", or "lose". Russians, we are told, did not really intend to win at all, so these weren't real battles. Real battles, it seems, are the ones where Russia prevails.
LOL. Withdrawing under fire requires incredible coordination to avoid taking large losses.

Russia couldn't manage a much simpler river crossing. Theres a LOT of reports of Russian units taking simply insane losses.

And Russia is throwing in older equipment and untrained folks into it, while Ukraine is training up a ton of folks, and getting massive influxes of military equipment. Russia is well and truly stuck in the bear trap now.

The announcement today that the US will provide MLRS systems? Despite it only being the short ranged variant the Russians are losing their minds over it. And honestly? I dont blame them. The things are scary as heck. The Russians have a poorly guided mlrs. The US has GPS guidance on theirs. And they can dispense a truly scary amount of submunitions. These things are vastly more capable then the competing Russian systems. A survivor of one attack from these described it as they thinking they were ok for a second when the shells detonated at altitude, but then the steel rain of sub-munitions basically killed everyone.
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Old 05-29-2022, 08:22 PM
 
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Todays Update

https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...essment-may-28



Ukrainian partisan activity continues to impose costs on Russian occupation forces in Kherson and Zaporizhia oblasts.

This is one of the many areas to pay close attention to. Partisans can wreak alot of havoc on Russian forces in occupied territories.

Yes they can and they do.

Let's see here;

The authorities of Zaporizhzhya said that teachers were threatened with life imprisonment for cooperation with the Russian Federation

Vladimir Rogov, a member of the main council of the military-civilian administration of the Zaporozhye region, noted that "terror is constantly going on," as it was after the Great Patriotic War (WWII)

MOSCOW, May 29. /TASS/. Mayors of cities in the Zaporozhye region, teachers, directors of enterprises and other people doing their peaceful work, constantly receive threats of imprisonment or death. This was announced in an interview with TASS by Vladimir Rogov, a member of the main council of the military-civilian administration of the Zaporozhye region.
"If we talk in general about the principles of organizing peaceful life, then we must understand that, in addition to a military, in addition to comrades-in-arms, our soldiers, <...> there are others who exhibit heroism, they are ordinary people who establish a peaceful life. Here mayors of cities, directors of enterprises, universities deans, school directors, heads of kindergartens, even teachers, nannies and janitors. Why am I talking about them? Because they constantly receive threats, they are terrorized, they are threatened with life imprisonment in prison, their windows are broken, they are threatened with death," Rogov said.
He noted that "terror is constantly going on," as it was after the Great Patriotic War, (WWII,) when they began to establish a peaceful life on the territory of Ukraine, but the Bandera followers prevented this in every possible way, attacking medical personnel, school employees, "all those who launched a peaceful life and carried order and the opportunity to live with dignity in their native land."


https://n.tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-pa...rer=google.com


That's what the terrorists do to the general population, when it tries to return to the normal life.

And since people are trying to return to this normal life on controlled now by Russians territories - that's what they need - the nurses, the teachers, the day cares.

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Old 05-29-2022, 08:43 PM
 
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if Lithuanians are willing to pay premium mark up for American gas, be my guest. Just wait until winter time, logistics disruptions and country default due to inability to pay for energy carriers. A country with basically no export value will be tough to switch from cheap and certain to expensive and unreliable.
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Old 05-29-2022, 09:29 PM
 
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Yes they can and they do.

Let's see here;

The authorities of Zaporizhzhya said that teachers were threatened with life imprisonment for cooperation with the Russian Federation

Vladimir Rogov, a member of the main council of the military-civilian administration of the Zaporozhye region, noted that "terror is constantly going on," as it was after the Great Patriotic War (WWII)

MOSCOW, May 29. /TASS/. Mayors of cities in the Zaporozhye region, teachers, directors of enterprises and other people doing their peaceful work, constantly receive threats of imprisonment or death. This was announced in an interview with TASS by Vladimir Rogov, a member of the main council of the military-civilian administration of the Zaporozhye region.
"If we talk in general about the principles of organizing peaceful life, then we must understand that, in addition to a military, in addition to comrades-in-arms, our soldiers, <...> there are others who exhibit heroism, they are ordinary people who establish a peaceful life. Here mayors of cities, directors of enterprises, universities deans, school directors, heads of kindergartens, even teachers, nannies and janitors. Why am I talking about them? Because they constantly receive threats, they are terrorized, they are threatened with life imprisonment in prison, their windows are broken, they are threatened with death," Rogov said.
He noted that "terror is constantly going on," as it was after the Great Patriotic War, (WWII,) when they began to establish a peaceful life on the territory of Ukraine, but the Bandera followers prevented this in every possible way, attacking medical personnel, school employees, "all those who launched a peaceful life and carried order and the opportunity to live with dignity in their native land."


https://n.tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-pa...rer=google.com


That's what the terrorists do to the general population, when it tries to return to the normal life.

And since people are trying to return to this normal life on controlled now by Russians territories - that's what they need - the nurses, the teachers, the day cares.
The only terrorist I see are the Russians invading and subjecting a people of a sovereign nation without justification.
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Old 05-29-2022, 09:45 PM
 
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You'll never convince the "rootin' for Putin" crowd of anything.
Yeah, what's up with that? The man has been well known as a cold blooded killer for years now, he has a criminal background as well as a KGB background ... and he launches unprovoked attacks on neighboring countries ... now multiple events in the historical record, and not just Ukraine.

Why would any American give this man the benefit of the doubt, much less full support? It seems irrational.
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Old 05-29-2022, 10:52 PM
 
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Maybe the Ukrainians are pulling back in order to get all the Russians in one place with a headquarters and all that.
Then Ukraine can kill about a gillion Russians all at once.
Lithuania has broken free from Russian gas. The video shows American LNG arriving via ship, making it clear who the winner and loser in that exchange is.
It has taken 15 years for Lithuania to prepare the facilities and so forth needed to turn off Russia's oil and gas. While that is a long time, Lithuania will never be back.
As everyone knows, Russia will always find someone to take their oil. What they won't find is someone who will ever trust them - or for that matter, anyone they can trust. And at some point they will no longer have any customers who have a pipeline from Russia. They will all be shut off at some point.


It used to be illegal to export crude from USA. Obama changed that, but it appears Biden is going to rethink that policy again, taking a step closer to once again making North America (and Mexico) energy independent.

The researchers I like to follow see where USA may pull back from being involved in European and Asian affairs. I look forward to that time, but believe the least we can do for the rest of the world is leave them with a greatly weakened Russia.
Regardless of how this particular struggle shakes out, I think Europe is going to devolve into a hot mess. If we had a president who made a case for withdrawing from NATO, I would certainly listen to the case, since Europe has done so little to defend itself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdXqbE9evw0
More predictions?

FYI, it's close to 8 am in Crimea, May 30th. Perhaps, you were talking CA time or Hawaii? Lol.
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Old 05-29-2022, 11:16 PM
 
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The only terrorist I see are the Russians invading and subjecting a people of a sovereign nation without justification.

With other words, threatening teachers and daycare workers is OK in your book.

As long as they dare to live their lives without Zelensky and Co, without the nationalist puppet government.


Got it.
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