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Old 05-24-2022, 09:08 PM
 
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Okay, hug a Chinaman and the subject goes off on a tangent:

https://www.nixonlibrary.gov/nixons-trip-china


Oh, China foreign policy is part of the subject.

And so Kissinger was historically probably saying that the Chinese communist party was a better result than the Russian communist party. Well, that is diplomacy. Or maybe Kissinger, in 1972, was saying that the current leadership of China was better than some previous leadership of China ?

But really, modern foreign policy had to accept that neither the Chinese revolution or the Russian revolution, that neither, overthrew a democracy.

And I said this before, to conduct diplomacy requires that the logic of the country be recognized. The country that is the diplomatic target is not crazy.


Back to current times, and when it's said that Russia has a behavior problem that means that they have no logic and that means that there is no interest in conducting diplomacy. And no interest in diplomacy means continuing warfare
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Old 05-24-2022, 11:05 PM
 
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They must not even have too much faith in their supposed 'tough sanctions on Russia'. LOL


I had a feeling they were all just smoke and mirrors, (to make Americans think we are doing something to stop Russias invasion)...


Yeah, like VISA and Mastercard are just going to stop doing business in Russia. LOL, yeah right! ( I actually am beginning to wonder if Russians were ever cut off from using their credit cards?...I kind of doubt it)
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Old 05-24-2022, 11:30 PM
 
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If Henry's neighbor found out that the lines on Henry's property were a bit ambiguous, and taking advantage of that, built a monstrosity on what was formerly the Kissinger estate, would Henry cede the property and maybe throw in a bit more?
Repped. I like your thinking. I would not cede an inch of my home to a bully neighbor. Neither should Ukraine.
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Old 05-25-2022, 06:09 AM
 
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As of now - the Ukrainian people appear to have no interest in following Mr. Kissinger's advice. Theirs is the only opinion that matters, truly.
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Old 05-25-2022, 06:37 AM
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They must not even have too much faith in their supposed 'tough sanctions on Russia'. LOL
'they'? is kissinger more than one person now?
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Old 05-25-2022, 06:57 AM
 
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The issue there is that it just gives Russia 5 years or so to re-arm and figure out their military flaws better...and then return.

It's not like this is their first land grab in recent history in that area.
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Old 05-25-2022, 06:59 AM
 
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The issue there is that it just gives Russia 5 years or so to re-arm and figure out their military flaws better...and then return.

It's not like this is their first land grab in recent history in that area.
Bingo.

Couldn't rep you again, yet.
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Old 05-25-2022, 07:49 AM
 
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Here's something, no one without the know, will understand here.
You need to know, WHY that war actually started. The real reason, not spoken of.
And, why it is exactly Mr Kissinger, a man with tremendous respect and political weight, speaking of splitting Ukraine and giving to Cesar, what's Cesar's.

Or, for example, why one Yakov Kedmi is chastising - openly, on central Russian political program - Russian troops for moving too slowly to capture Odessa and certain else SE Ukraine regions.
Or, why one Zelensky offered Western Ukraine to Poland.

When you know the real reason behind this, then, what Henry says, only makes sense. The Plan is running behind its timetable as, according to the same Plan, other gears of it already started moving and it all needs to start falling into its schedule. And heavy-s like Kissinger and Soros are to remind the puppets to giddy up.
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Old 05-25-2022, 08:00 AM
 
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They knew better than to get into a hot war with Russia back in the day. Today's democrats have no wisdom or capacity for forward thinking. It's all about their emotions and how they feel at this very moment. They are driven by the pursuit of pleasure and instant gratification, not logic. It's a very dangerous defect for a leader to have, but they all too often get elected because they are the best at making fantastically unrealistic promises.
Getting into a hot war with Russia back in the day, should have been done looking back in history. We had the generals to do it, with Patton just itching to be set free.
We never would have allowed them to get nukes, thus no Cold War, and eventual nuclear proliferation.

As to ceding territory to Russia to end the war, Zelensky, the Klitschko brothers and those type of Ukrainian men, do not seem the type to tuck tail.
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Old 05-25-2022, 08:19 AM
 
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Sure, give in and give up. Let the aggressor take some territory. Easy to say when it's not YOUR territory being taken.
To be fair, it's also not our territory to defend. We weren't attacked and neither were any of our NATO allies were attacked. Ukraine ranks as one of the most corrupt nations on the planet. We have pledged $60 billion in funding for this war, that's an enormous sum of money, half of Ukraine's GDP! All those weapons and cash will mean that Ukraine is totally annihilated and the losses and suffering will drag on. The entire Russian military budget is estimated to be around $50 billion/year.
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