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Old 08-16-2022, 12:26 PM
 
Location: Port Charlotte FL
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Russia's Black Sea fleet struggling with effective sea control, UK says
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The Black Fleet's currently limited effectiveness undermines Russia's overall invasion strategy, in part because the amphibious threat to Odesa has now been largely neutralised, the intelligence update added.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ys-2022-08-16/
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Old 08-16-2022, 02:41 PM
 
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even Turkey doesn't want that Russian military junk...lol..

Im surprised Poots even had anyone interested in buying that old soviet crap.
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Old 08-16-2022, 02:52 PM
 
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Umm... no. Putin is not using his full military potential in Ukraine and he doesn't care who is waiting for him to do so. Obviously, he isn't doing so because he doesn't need to, with the Ukrainian Donbass fortifications blown apart through the forces he has there. Another reason may be that other troops should be available at other potential flashpoints. Russia is a big country that has a lot of area to cover. Troops should be ready to respond at any time.
sooo...let me understand this. Russia is NOT using its full force, but taking tens of thousands of deaths in their military, murdering possibly hundreds of thousands of civilians, losing MASSIVE amounts of armor, etc etc....

Because they need to be ready at anytime in case something else happens.

LOL. Really? Do you even read what you wrote? If true it would be even MORE stunningly incompetent then whats actually occurring.

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Im surprised Poots even had anyone interested in buying that old soviet crap.
It works perfectly fine against unarmed civilians still, and against opponents using the same low quality weaponry.
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Old 08-16-2022, 03:38 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Im surprised Poots even had anyone interested in buying that old soviet crap.
It shows desperation.
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Old 08-16-2022, 03:49 PM
 
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It shows desperation.
People may laugh but those old soviet weapons have been a source of pain for American forces. Take the AK-47 for example. A crappy gun when compared to American weapons, but useful enough for the Taliban and Vietnamese to drive out American forces.
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Old 08-16-2022, 03:53 PM
 
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sooo...let me understand this. Russia is NOT using its full force, but taking tens of thousands of deaths in their military, murdering possibly hundreds of thousands of civilians, losing MASSIVE amounts of armor, etc etc....

Because they need to be ready at anytime in case something else happens.

LOL. Really? Do you even read what you wrote? If true it would be even MORE stunningly incompetent then whats actually occurring.


It works perfectly fine against unarmed civilians still, and against opponents using the same low quality weaponry.
I don't understand what is incompetent about such a strategy. Russia is not the U.S. with the ability to print money out of thin air. Resources have to be probably managed. After all isn't one of the goals to weaken Russia. What better way than to get them to commit all their forces thereby ensuring depletion.

Once again that soviet junk was used by the Taliban to push the Americans out of Afghanistan. Appears that junk works.
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Old 08-16-2022, 04:15 PM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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I keep hearing about how Russia has busted through the fortifications in the Donbas and it’s only a matter of days before Russia sweeps through, but every day I see that the boundaries are pretty stagnate, particularly in the Donetsk Oblast (same goes for Ukraine’s offensive of Kherson), seems like Ukraine and Russia are at a stalemate right now?
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Old 08-16-2022, 04:28 PM
 
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People may laugh but those old soviet weapons have been a source of pain for American forces. Take the AK-47 for example. A crappy gun when compared to American weapons, but useful enough for the Taliban and Vietnamese to drive out American forces.
Cool story. The taliban lost HOW many people doing it? Those "crappy weapons" are just that. If you bring enough knives to a gun fight you will "win" I suppose, but the cost in lives will be FAR higher. If thats what Russia views as good strategy, then its no surprise they are losing so many lives on the battlefield.
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Old 08-16-2022, 04:46 PM
 
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I don't understand what is incompetent about such a strategy. Russia is not the U.S. with the ability to print money out of thin air. Resources have to be probably managed. After all isn't one of the goals to weaken Russia. What better way than to get them to commit all their forces thereby ensuring depletion.

Once again that soviet junk was used by the Taliban to push the Americans out of Afghanistan. Appears that junk works.
Taliban pushed the Americans out of Afghanistan....no....decided to leave is more like it.

Russia can't print money out of thin air....gee...that's too bad
...it must be their poor economy...too bad for them....
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Old 08-16-2022, 05:03 PM
 
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sooo...let me understand this. Russia is NOT using its full force, but taking tens of thousands of deaths in their military, murdering possibly hundreds of thousands of civilians, losing MASSIVE amounts of armor, etc etc....

Because they need to be ready at anytime in case something else happens.

LOL. Really? Do you even read what you wrote? If true it would be even MORE stunningly incompetent then whats actually occurring.


It works perfectly fine against unarmed civilians still, and against opponents using the same low quality weaponry.
You don't mention that Ukrainian forces are losing much more than the Russian ones and are still being pushed back. And they outnumber the Russian personnel. An inconvenient truth that has to be constantly ignored. And Russian losses are not that high. And they haven't killed hundreds of thousands of civilians. That is completely absurd. And losing massive amounts of armor? Completely hilarious. This is a false narrative. Otherwise, the Russians would have been pushed out of Ukraine months ago since this stuff has been constantly repeated for months.

As I said before, Russia is not using it's full military potential in Ukraine because it has to be ready to tackle potential flashpoints elsewhere. Imagine if Russia WAS using all its military forces, and suddenly NATO forces invaded Vladivostok, or Murmansk. If that happened then OOPS, no Russian forces to repel them and a disastrous defeat. Apparently, you don't have a grasp of military doctrine. I suggest that you educate yourself on that so that you don't embarrass yourself in the future.
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