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View Poll Results: Do you support giving Ukraine F-16s
Yes 190 39.75%
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Old 09-09-2022, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Port Charlotte FL
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Ukraine Will Retake Crimea Within a Year, Former U.S. Europe General Says
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Old 09-09-2022, 01:58 PM
 
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Just saw a video of two A-10 Warthogs in the Lzium area

Hot damn!
If it's the one making the rounds, it's CGI. And a good thing, too. Not a good environment for A-10s.
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Old 09-09-2022, 02:05 PM
 
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May I present "exhibit A"...all this blather came out in March...remember this war was going to be short...like a month or two ?



https://www.huffpost.com/entry/franc...b0317d0a329c20
Russia Facing ‘Outright Defeat’ And ‘Sudden’ Collapse In Ukraine


https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapo...h=242587d87089
Russians Fleeing As Nation Faces Economic Collapse
Neither of these cites provide a timeline for a short war, let alone one of "a month or two". I don't think you're telling the truth.
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Old 09-09-2022, 02:06 PM
 
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That sounds optimistic. Much depends on the Russian political picture.
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Old 09-09-2022, 02:10 PM
 
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I don't know. Why is that relevant ? That poster said they never read of the MSM predicting "economic collapse". Well I gave them 2 links from March that say exactly that.
You claimed a specific, short timeline. Neither link touched on that.
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Old 09-09-2022, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Austin
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If it's the one making the rounds, it's CGI. And a good thing, too. Not a good environment for A-10s.
There is no good CAS environment. It's about the most hazardous environment a pilot could not wish for. The A-10 was designed for basically this exact scenario. Attacking Soviet armored forces and ground troops should they have decided to come over the wall and thru the Fulda gap. The warthog would be facing almost the same Russian hardware and tactics as it was designed for. Sure they have better SAMs now but even the old SA3s they would have faced in Western Europe were bad news enough for a slow aircraft 200' off the ground.
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Old 09-09-2022, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Port Charlotte FL
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Deny's update today 9/09...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=422RLvK0r4U
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Old 09-09-2022, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Hmmmm...2nd one of these initiatives in the last 2 days.

https://twitter.com/Billbrowder/stat...68566884933632

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Municipal deputies in St Petersburg have put forward a proposal to the State Duma to bring treason charges against Putin in order to remove him from the presidential office
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Old 09-09-2022, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Danville, VA
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Putin call a meeting of his security council. The look on his face says it all.

https://twitter.com/jamesfraney/stat...18805696303111
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Old 09-09-2022, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Putin call a meeting of his security council. The look on his face says it all.

https://twitter.com/jamesfraney/stat...18805696303111
Wonder if anybody on the security council will be "terminated"??
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