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Old 09-22-2022, 11:48 AM
 
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Recaps and highlights of how HIMARS and artillery have been used to kill Russian rapists, murderers, and terrorists.


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Old 09-22-2022, 11:53 AM
 
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Yes, that’s very true. I certainly have. And we know where you stand on the matter, too. But it’s you who represents the calibration point, and apparently, all that is required is to convince someone to believe one asinine fairytale,
Like the moon landing.


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and you’ve captured them for life, and they’ll believe anything you tell them after that.

Congratulations.
I admit it. I rolled right over on the moon landing thing. Took it hook line and sinker. You can blame Newton, NASA, Einstein and of course Dane. I'm very suggestible right now ... hit me with your alien abduction experiences and I'll be running to the kitchen for some tinfoil.
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Old 09-22-2022, 11:56 AM
 
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Advanced weapons systems are admitted to have been delivered to Ukraine on multiple occasions from the US. That’s not speculation, that’s a fact. Now, maybe this is just too much for you to figure out on your own, but these systems don’t operate themselves, nor is it likely for Ukrainian forces to consult owners manuals for instructions on how to operate them. These systems require trained specialists, and exactly where do you think those operators could be coming from?
Himars training was done outside of Ukraine
https://mil.in.ua/en/news/ukrainian-...mars-training/
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Old 09-22-2022, 12:08 PM
 
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Advanced weapons systems are admitted to have been delivered to Ukraine on multiple occasions from the US. That’s not speculation, that’s a fact. Now, maybe this is just too much for you to figure out on your own, but these systems don’t operate themselves, nor is it likely for Ukrainian forces to consult owners manuals for instructions on how to operate them. These systems require trained specialists, and exactly where do you think those operators could be coming from?
So you claim without proof that US specialists are there with each M777 battery? Your argument is that it's impossible that experienced Ukrainian artillerymen could be cross-trained in Europe and sent back to Ukraine with adequate knowledge of the weapons?

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Maybe, you should pull your head out and get some sunshine? If we were in a war with Mexico, and Russia was sending Mexico advanced Russian weapons systems to kill American forces, we’d certainly consider that DIRECT RUSSIAN INVOLVEMENT AGAINST THE UNITED STATES.
And two sentences later you've changed your definition of direct involvement to mean sending them weapons.

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That is precisely what Putin said in his speech that you obviously didn’t listen to, but still feel compelled to flap your gums as usual. So, it really doesn’t matter what the street geniuses like you believe, it’s what Putin believes is the pertinent matter. HE called out US and NATO hostilities against Russian forces, as directly involved. And he is correct. This fact only seems to be a secret to you.
You are oddly emotional about insisting we walk a mile in poor Putin's shoes and feel his pain. We are the U.S.A. For 245 years we've made it a point to not care about injuring the psyches or physical selves of dictators.
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Old 09-22-2022, 12:09 PM
 
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You’re out of your mind, just like the maniacs running this country and NATO. Stark raving lunatics, the entire lot of you.

US and NATO are already directly engaged with the Russians, and are pushing them back.
No. You have no evidence that US and NATO are directly engaged with the Russians.
Directly engaged means NATO troops are fighting Russian troops. Not even Putin is claiming that.
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Old 09-22-2022, 12:14 PM
 
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Recaps and highlights of how HIMARS and artillery have been used to kill Russian rapists, murderers, and terrorists.
You’re so wrong, it’s painful. I’ve watched independent western journalists and their interviews with Ukrainian civilians, who tell the complete opposite story, and those stories having been taking place for the past 5 years, years before the Russians took military action.

The NAZI Azov wing of the Ukrainian military have been murdering civilians, and destroying civilian infrastructure for several years. This is the same group who split from their Ukrainian brethren during WW II, joined Hitler’s forces and murdered their own people. Nice guys.

Now, they have committed some of the most heinous war crimes imaginable, like military doctors instructing field units to castrate Russian wounded, and those who surrender. These are the true monsters to which you cheer for. They are the rapists, terrorists and murderers …. they are the ones who take fallen Russian soldiers cell phones, and contact their family members, taunting them about how they killed their loved ones. What kind of monster does things like that? They are demons, and pure evil.

Meanwhile, Ukrainian civilians have reported just the opposite from the advancing Russian military, saying that they treated them with kindness, and provided them food and medical care to those wounded by the indiscriminate bombing of civilian areas from Ukrainian forces.

So, I tend to believe them, not the liars in our news media, because of course, you’ll never see any of this in our fake news.
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Old 09-22-2022, 12:22 PM
 
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The Ukrainian civilians have reported just the opposite from the Russian military, saying that they treated them with kindness, and provided them food and medical care to those wounded by the indiscriminate bombing of civilian areas from Ukrainian forces.

Of course, you’ll never see any of this in the fake news.
You are telling me that life is different than in millennia of Russian behavior on its borders?
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Old 09-22-2022, 12:35 PM
 
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No. You have no evidence that US and NATO are directly engaged with the Russians.
Directly engaged means NATO troops are fighting Russian troops. Not even Putin is claiming that.
Take your inane legal argument to court. If I hand someone a gun, and he shoots you, I would be directly involved, without having pulled the trigger myself.

NATO and US advanced weapon systems are being delivered to Ukraine. You can bet they come with training specialists. That’s direct involvement, by any rational definition. It isn’t necessary for US troops to be shooting Russians in order to be directly involved.
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Old 09-22-2022, 12:39 PM
 
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You are telling me that life is different than in millennia of Russian behavior on its borders?
Obviously, that statement reveals your ignorance of the history of that region. You probably never heard of Ukraine a year ago, so don’t act like you’re so knowledgeable, because your statements prove you aren’t.

This is what happens when you regurgitate fake news, without actual knowledge.

The reality is, Russia was not the one who invaded and destroyed several middle eastern countries over the last 20 years, that would be the US. So spare me the Russian Aggression meme.
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Old 09-22-2022, 01:01 PM
 
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Russian terrorists have committed mass murders once again. The world must unite and fight this evil Russia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUXJwQno_Lo
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