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View Poll Results: Do you support giving Ukraine F-16s
Yes 190 39.58%
No 244 50.83%
Unsure 46 9.58%
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Old 05-29-2022, 09:19 AM
 
Location: State of Transition
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SE Ukraine will be peacefully handed to Russia, as the result of coming Ukraine/Russia treaty.
Western Ukraine will go under Poland and Duda will have golden monuments of him, erected in major Polish cities.
Transcarpathia will go under Hungary.
Transnistria will join Russia and Moldova is likely to volunteer too.
What's left of Ukraine will be under Russian protectorate, with military fangs removed.


Mind day and time this was said. Don't argue with this, just mark day and time and circle back in about several months, after Donbas operation will crush bulk of Ukraine forces and coupe d'atate will be looming on horizon.
Wait a minute. What does Romania get out of the breakup of Ukraine? They have part of Bukovina. There's a Romanian population living there. If Ukraine is going to be broken up, and the pieces handed away to prior historical "owners", be fair and include in the giveaway all those with a documentable claim.
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Old 05-29-2022, 09:21 AM
 
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Tanks are unreliable death traps. I don't get why modern armies keep using them.
I've been wondering the same thing. Yet everyone uses them, and Ukraine couldn't wait to get more donated.
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Old 05-29-2022, 09:23 AM
 
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More Russian tanks destroyed. The invaders ran for their lives.
It's so interesting, that you only show films of the Russian side's losses, and not the Ukrainian side, which has had to flee the Russians' gradual advance. The BBC has been reporting Ukraine's abandonment of positions in the east.
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Old 05-29-2022, 09:25 AM
 
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Tanks are unreliable death traps. I don't get why modern armies keep using them.
Russian tanks are unreliable death traps. The T80 and T72 are more or less the same tank and that's a 50 year old design from an era prior to fire and forget anti-tank weapons and precision munitions etc.

Modern tanks used with good coordination and not hung out to dry without proper support are still effective.

Kinda like saying that ships like the Moskva are obsolete....well yeah when you don't operate the missile defense systems they are.
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Old 05-29-2022, 09:25 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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SE Ukraine will be peacefully handed to Russia................Mind day and time this was said............ Don't argue with this...........

No point in the rest of us watching and commenting now, is there?
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Old 05-29-2022, 09:29 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Tanks are unreliable death traps. I don't get why modern armies keep using them.
The US losses in Gulf War 1, where US lost 31 tanks and Kuwait lost 3300, indicate that it just depends on the tank and who the enemy is.
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Old 05-29-2022, 09:57 AM
 
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When was the last time Russia had a successful military campaign?
Very recently in Syria. We are told Russia is losing but Ukraine keeps losing territory and cities. So what battles is Ukraine winning exactly.
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Old 05-29-2022, 10:06 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Originally Posted by Listener2307 .......When the Battle of Severodonetsk ends, regardless of which side holds the city, the Russian offensive at the operational and strategic levels will likely have culminated.............
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They keep saying that...........Putin knew all these obstacles were coming, and he likely did something to prepare for them... Like making his economy and war machine "sanction proof" like he said he would do. The ruble is stronger than it's been in decades and oil revenues have shot up 50% with no shortage of buyers willing to pay rubles. I'm sure there are shortages of some things, but Russia's equipment is usually pretty simple and unsophisticated... .............
Well, not really. No military person that I ever heard used the term "culminated" before these last few weeks. The time line at which it will culminate varies from person to person since it's all a best guess. But many people are starting to wonder about the size of war stockpiles. They cannot be infinite and cannot be replaced.
Replacement tanks cannot be manufactured by Russia. Neither can sophisticated missiles nor sophisticated artillery shells.


The Ruble:
Don't be fooled. The Russia authorities raised the interest rate on the Ruble to 20% - an incredibly high rate - in an effort to entice buyers. So the Ruble rose.
But Russian business also must borrow money and they can't afford an interest rate that high, so the rate has been steadily lowered. It was cut to 14% (an enormous cut) and now to 11%, with further cuts promised.
This chart shows the Ruble's mountain climbing adventure. Last measure was at .015; historically it has been in the range of .013.


Oil revenue is up, but sanctions prevent Russia from trading with the 40 countries who have signed on and boycotts prevent them from trading with the 1200 companies who have voluntarily ceased doing business in Russia.


And then there is the hundreds of billions in frozen assets. We should not pretend that Russia didn't really need this money anyway. They did.
Putin, et al, had no idea they would be sanctioned and boycotted the way they have, since no other country in history has ever been this isolated. If they had known they would not have stored all that money in foreign countries.
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Old 05-29-2022, 10:12 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Very recently in Syria. We are told Russia is losing but Ukraine keeps losing territory and cities. So what battles is Ukraine winning exactly.
The battle to keep their chosen president in place and to keep Russian occupiers out of Kyiv.
They may lose Donbass entirely, or they may lose it temporarily. We have to wait and see. Maybe the Ukrainians will just shrug and say they never really wanted to keep it, anyway.

But I wouldn't count on it.
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Old 05-29-2022, 10:24 AM
 
Location: Flyover part of Virginia
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Very recently in Syria. We are told Russia is losing but Ukraine keeps losing territory and cities. So what battles is Ukraine winning exactly.
Occupation is not victory.
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