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Old 05-24-2022, 03:46 PM
 
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Kissinger says to cede territory to end the Ukraine war:

https://www.businessinsider.com/kiss...e-putin-2022-5


Kissinger says that Taiwan shouldn't be a core diplomatic issue with China:

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/23/kiss...gitations.html
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Old 05-24-2022, 03:57 PM
 
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I thought Henry Kissinger was dead.

Sorry that I was mistaken about that.
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Old 05-24-2022, 03:58 PM
 
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Wow.


When the warmongers have lost Kissinger, you know the jigg is up.
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Old 05-24-2022, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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Sure, give in and give up. Let the aggressor take some territory. Easy to say when it's not YOUR territory being taken.
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Old 05-24-2022, 04:10 PM
 
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Wow.


When the warmongers have lost Kissinger, you know the jigg is up.

They knew better than to get into a hot war with Russia back in the day. Today's democrats have no wisdom or capacity for forward thinking. It's all about their emotions and how they feel at this very moment. They are driven by the pursuit of pleasure and instant gratification, not logic. It's a very dangerous defect for a leader to have, but they all too often get elected because they are the best at making fantastically unrealistic promises.
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Old 05-24-2022, 04:18 PM
 
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I thought Henry Kissinger was dead.

Sorry that I was mistaken about that.
I thought he was dead too...

Just looked up his birthdate ...May 27th 1923....just a couple of days
away from 99 !!

I'm sure how coherent he is these days...

Ceding territory is awarding the bully....not good.
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Old 05-24-2022, 04:23 PM
 
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Both the current U.S. administration and the EU are saying that Russia has bad-behavior.

But see bad-behavior means poor-logic and that's a new type of diplomacy.

A previous diplomacy, of game-theory between major powers, just identified the logic involved and then predicted actions and responses. And each logical major power accepted the other major powers as also being logical major powers.

And now the astounding thing is that both Russia and China are saying that there is something wrong with current western diplomacy.

Also, note that the previous U.S. administration had a calmer diplomacy with both Russia and China. In fact the previous U.S. administration had a diplomacy with North Korea and that was the first ever diplomacy between the U.S. and North Korea.


Now there was no way that NATO was going to pull-back forces in Eastern Europe just on demand. But Ukraine could have negotiated a neutrality with Russia. A neutrality negotiation was available.

Then just during past couple of days, the U.S. promised military defense of Taiwan against China
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Old 05-24-2022, 06:38 PM
 
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Kissinger says to cede territory to end the Ukraine war:

https://www.businessinsider.com/kiss...e-putin-2022-5


Kissinger says that Taiwan shouldn't be a core diplomatic issue with China:

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/23/kiss...gitations.html
.
You mean you want the Russians to cede territory to Ukraine to end the war? That's a great idea!!!!

This war is ABOUT THE VAST OIL RESERVES IN UKRAINE, THE UKRAINE/RUSSIAN PIPELINE TO EUROPE, WATER TO CRIMEA, AND THAT IS IT.

How to end it? Have the US broker a deal between Russia and Ukraine to jointly develop the vast oil and gas reserves so that both countries get fabulously rich from the profits, rather than destroying themselves. HOWEVER, WE HAVE AN IDIOT IN THE OVAL OFFICE, NOT A STATESMAN. Therefore we have no one to broker such a deal.
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Old 05-24-2022, 06:58 PM
 
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You mean you want the Russians to cede territory to Ukraine to end the war? That's a great idea!!!!

This war is ABOUT THE VAST OIL RESERVES IN UKRAINE, THE UKRAINE/RUSSIAN PIPELINE TO EUROPE, WATER TO CRIMEA, AND THAT IS IT.

How to end it? Have the US broker a deal between Russia and Ukraine to jointly develop the vast oil and gas reserves so that both countries get fabulously rich from the profits, rather than destroying themselves. HOWEVER, WE HAVE AN IDIOT IN THE OVAL OFFICE, NOT A STATESMAN. Therefore we have no one to broker such a deal.
That’s actually where you’re wrong. This war is about keeping the globalist pandemic from entering its borders. Think of it like quarantine but the virus is something different entirely.

Critical Race Theory was never meant just for American borders. It’s race Marxism which was always meant for a global revolution. Right now it’s just focused on the most “out of equilibrium” aspect of the global economy right now. IOW at least China has like 20% of the global population, not a measly 4.5% and shrinking like the US has.

But this revolution leaves no winners. Equilibrium for anything living is death.
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Old 05-24-2022, 07:26 PM
 
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If Henry's neighbor found out that the lines on Henry's property were a bit ambiguous, and taking advantage of that, built a monstrosity on what was formerly the Kissinger estate, would Henry cede the property and maybe throw in a bit more?
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