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Old 05-25-2022, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Originally Posted by Dane_in_LA View Post
What a dumb thing to type. Different skillsets, different aptitudes. Come on...
If they aren't responsible enough to safely handle a firearm, they aren't responsible enough to be in charge of children. Simple common sense. I would expect any teacher to have it.

 
Old 05-25-2022, 12:30 PM
 
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It would not be guns that would have caused that...
It would have been a society so knee-deep in firearms that even the nuttiest of nutcases would have a very easy time getting one. And a firearms culture (using that word in the broadest possible sense) that links sporting a firearm to control, masculinity, power, agency - all of them traits that certain nutcases know they lack in their life.

The profusion of firearms in the US has of course also lead to a police force that kills its own citizens at a rate that's somewhere between 10 and 50 times higher than other Western nations. Which is kinda weird for something that's supposed to protect against government overreach.

But there's no reason to get worked up, you've won. The power symbols stay for those who like such, and the rest of us just have to suffer the occasional horrifying massacre.
 
Old 05-25-2022, 12:31 PM
 
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If they aren't responsible enough to safely handle a firearm, they aren't responsible enough to be in charge of children. Simple common sense.
It's simple, all right.

Last edited by Dane_in_LA; 05-25-2022 at 12:40 PM..
 
Old 05-25-2022, 12:35 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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Don't know about teachers, but there is no excuse to NOT have armed guards in schools. I graduated in 1980 in a small town (at the time) high school. We had an armed policeman in the school at that time during school hours. And that was over forty years ago.
 
Old 05-25-2022, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Don't know about teachers, but there is no excuse to NOT have armed guards in schools. I graduated in 1980 in a small town (at the time) high school. We had an armed policeman in the school at that time during school hours. And that was over forty years ago.
Remember, the people calling for gun control are the ones who were calling to defund the police a few months ago. Anything that makes the life of the criminal more difficult is anathema to them.
 
Old 05-25-2022, 12:39 PM
 
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You think a rule that guns have to be left in vehicles stops someone from shooting up a school?
Yes. Better have a gun free zone sign to go with it to maximize the effect.
 
Old 05-25-2022, 12:39 PM
 
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You stepped into this one. AR stands for the manufacturer, ArmaLite.
Incidentally, the very favorite firearm brands of the IRA. Songs have been written in its praise.
 
Old 05-25-2022, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Finland
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Can't be arsed to reply to each person that quoted me, shall just put this here - this doesn't happen in countries with sensible gun laws, mass shootings are just so much rarer (and before anyone says "but knife crime", you can't kill a whole lot of people quickly with a knife, someone here tried with a sword and only managed to kill one person, if he had used his gun he could have killed so many more). My country has had two school shootings, just two, and guns aren't banned here, we just have sensible laws about who can own guns and where they can take them, meanwhile in the US you're having mass shootings all the time, you turn your schools into prisons and little children have to practice for when a shooter might come in - that's unheard of here, the only drills we have our fire drills and our children don't have to take bulletproof backpacks to school, or pass through metal detectors, or have armed officers in the building, my local school doesn't even have a fence and the doors are unlocked all day.
 
Old 05-25-2022, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Finland
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It began as a brand name. The rights have been sold a few times and there are many copycats now. Just as many other products are called synonymously by their original brand name. I.e. "google that" for search that, "xerox me a copy" for make a photocopy, many refer to a tissue as a Kleenex, etc.


The ArmaLite AR-15[note 2] is a select-fire,[note 1] gas-operated, air-cooled, magazine-fed rifle manufactured in the United States between 1959 and 1964.[9]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArmaLite_AR-15
That link says its an assault rifle, over on the box on the right side.
 
Old 05-25-2022, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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It is completely irrelevant what category of gun that AR 15 officially is. It’s clearly the gun of choice for mass murderers and this thug had no business whatsoever buying two of them in quick procession and blowing those innocent little kids to oblivion. Call that thing a Mack truck if you want, we all know what it is and it has no place being for sale to the public. .
And just as with Prohibition and the marijuana and underage-drinking laws, an underground market for the millions of weapons already produced will quickly spring up. Enforcement? -- please don't make me laugh.
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