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Old 05-27-2022, 10:00 AM
 
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"but we will never know if......."
In my opinion, what a stupid remark.

Because of WHERE they are and have NOT had a single instance BECAUSE of the actions and protections they have taken and continue to take says a lot.

You can play your silly "what if" games all you want.

The RESULTS speek or themselves!

And you can cast insults all you want but it still doesn't change the fact that you cannot know the alternative history.

Consider this - last week this Uvalde elementary school could have boasted how their preparations were working and they had never had an incident. Those were the RESULTS.

 
Old 05-27-2022, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Paxton is an idiot.

I'm licensed to carry a gun, I train regularly, and I live in Texas. Paxton may live in Texas, but I don't think he has a clue about how to protect a bunch of children in a classroom with a pistol against a more heavily armed invader whose intent is to kill anyone in range.

The first thing I'd do is equip classrooms with armored hallway doors and rear escape doors...whether or not the teachers were armed. If I were an armed teacher, I'd certainly rather guard the kids' escape through the back door than try to shoot it out in a closed room full of kids.
Very true, how does someone with a handgun go up against an AR-15. This was the direction they went after the other school shootings, resource officers and arm the teachers rather than address the problem with kids like this getting guns.
 
Old 05-27-2022, 10:10 AM
 
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Very true, how does someone with a handgun go up against an AR-15. This was the direction they went after the other school shootings, resource officers and arm the teachers rather than address the problem with kids like this getting guns.
Do you really think it's not possible for someone or multiple people with handguns to take down a person with an AR?

Of course it is. One well place shot would end things with a handgun. Just look at the Texas church shooting that was stopped by the armed citizen. He dropped the guy before he could kill anyone with one shot to the noggin.
 
Old 05-27-2022, 10:13 AM
 
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Very true, how does someone with a handgun go up against an AR-15.

What makes you think they can't? What advantage do you think an AR-15 conveys?
 
Old 05-27-2022, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Very true, how does someone with a handgun go up against an AR-15. This was the direction they went after the other school shootings, resource officers and arm the teachers rather than address the problem with kids like this getting guns.
By shooting accurately.
 
Old 05-27-2022, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Do you really think it's not possible for someone or multiple people with handguns to take down a person with an AR?

Of course it is. One well place shot would end things with a handgun. Just look at the Texas church shooting that was stopped by the armed citizen. He dropped the guy before he could kill anyone with one shot to the noggin.
Anything is possible but the odds of coming out ahead with someone with an AR-15 is slim.

Unbelievable that I had to look up which Texas church shooting, there are several. The one you are talking about a trained instructor took down the shooter, the other trained instructor who also drew was killed. The shooter had a shot gun. But there was also the Sutherland church shooting where 26 were killed and another trained instructor took down the shooter with an AR-15.

I can't picture this being the case in every school or church.
 
Old 05-27-2022, 07:43 PM
 
Location: St. Louis Park, MN
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America would rather put the burden on teachers, who are not trained in armed combat, rather than get rid of firearms that have no business being in the hands of regular schlemiels.

This country is too far gone.
 
Old 05-27-2022, 07:47 PM
 
Location: St. Louis Park, MN
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It’s not a perfect solution, but it’s the ONLY solution available to us.

There are 300 to 400 million weapons in private hands. About 40 million of those, maybe even more, are so called assault rifles.

It would take decades, and cost tens of thousands of lives, to go door to door in order to de-arm the public. Not to mention stop and frisk check points everywhere. Also, the border is wide open with weapons and drugs flowing freely on a daily basis.

So let’s stop with the nonsense of banning weapons.

A “good guy with a gun” is the only thing that can work (sometimes) against a bad guy with a gun.
Funny... I see way more bad guys with guns. More people use AR-15s to cause mass atrocities than to stop them. Where were the "good guys" with guns in Uvalde? The cops? They sat around like ninnies and didn't let parents do anything after parents yelled at them to do something.
 
Old 05-27-2022, 07:47 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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America would rather put the burden on teachers, who are not trained in armed combat, rather than get rid of firearms that have no business being in the hands of regular schlemiels.

This country is too far gone.
Who said that, and please be specific?

Teachers will obviously have the choice to be armed or not, and since Dems don’t want police in schools, they’d be the only ones armed if they choose to.
 
Old 05-27-2022, 07:49 PM
 
Location: St. Louis Park, MN
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Radical logic I know, but people who kill other people clearly don't give a rat's butt about laws, but you're suggesting even more laws will help. Say that out loud and tell me it actually makes sense to you.

Not every problem can be solved by piling on more laws, rules, and regulations. Real solutions require actual thought, not knee-jerk sound bites. Perhaps we should try that.
He bought it legally. The law was not only on his side, it cooked him a nice steak dinner with red wine. The law is killing children.

And y'all more worried about the pre-born...
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