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Old 05-27-2022, 12:43 PM
 
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Every government over thrower that was inside the Capitol on the day of the MAGA riot should have been shot. You have no right to overthrow the government. We vote here.
One of them was shot and killed - she was not even in the building.
In fact, none these supposed “overthrowers” even bothered to bring a gun.

 
Old 05-27-2022, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Every government over thrower that was inside the Capitol on the day of the MAGA riot should have been shot. You have no right to overthrow the government. We vote here.
The idiots that stormed the Capitol were trespassing, assaulting police officers and rioting. They were hardly trying to overthrow the government. If they were it was a pretty lame attempt to do so. Thankfully, we don't shoot unarmed rioters in this country regardless of their political ideology. I was a law enforcement officer in two of the most violent cities in the nation for two decades. I'll never believe the shooting of Ashli Babbitt was justified. Nor do I know any veteran street cop regardless of race that believes her actions justified the use of deadly force. The Department of Justice whitewashed the investigation of her killing and it just went away in the eyes of the left.

You'd make Joe Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and Castro proud. Inside every progressive is a Stalinist begging to get out.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_2of8pmHYU

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Old 05-27-2022, 01:43 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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Every government over thrower that was inside the Capitol on the day of the MAGA riot should have been shot. You have no right to overthrow the government. We vote here.
You are calling for deaths of those in the radical left who are planning to blockade the streets around the Supreme Court?
 
Old 05-27-2022, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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I went and found some numbers, and while it was Wikipedia that I gathered this data from and I know that the site is crowd sourced information and not considered a viable source for, say, academics, the info looks to be on the up and up and I will use it here.

These are a count, of every incident involving a firearm discharged on or at a school or school-property (such as a school bus.) With and without injuries or fatalities, including things like suicides and such, and regardless of whether it was a minor or adult who carried the weapon...so not only what we think of as the "mass shootings" of today. Just...guns (fired) and schools and schoolchildren. It's grouped by 10 year increments, of every documented incident in the entire United States.

1840s - 1
1850s - 3
1860s - 5
1870s - 7
1880s - 10
1890s - 6
1900s - 13
1910s - 18
1920s - 10
1930s - 7
1940s - 8
1950s - 19
1960s - 21
1970s - 40
1980s - 60
1990s - 92
2000s - 68
2010s - 227
2020s - 69 so far (And if you take this number, and extrapolate for the fact that we're 2 years, 5 months into this decade, the total at the present rate would be 285.5...but bear in mind that there's some timeframe here that was Covid where many schools were actually closed to students.)

Maybe it is reasonable to consider factors like what the NRA was doing, or gun legislation in the US. But I don't think that is the whole story though. I think that the levels of poor education, poverty, desperation, incarceration, poor care of our citizens' mental and physical health, a whole lot of cultural reasons that tip people over into violence...are very much also involved. After all, there are countries where the rate of gun ownership is higher but the kind of gun violence we see here isn't present, and nations where the opposite is true. I think that higher rates of wealth inequality, power imbalance, poverty and desperation and despotism by leaders is where you see a lot of increasing violence. I just don't think that it's a one single factor driving this.

But I also don't think that we fix our problems with one single, simple solution. But unlike some, I do not use that as rationale to suggest that doing nothing would be better.
 
Old 05-27-2022, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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You are calling for deaths of those in the radical left who are planning to blockade the streets around the Supreme Court?

Exactly, or the Antifa rioters that rioted and attempted to burn down a U.S. Courthouse in Portland.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLAfAzdzAsw
 
Old 05-27-2022, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Why don’t the NRA and all the lovers of guns, fix this. I hear about rights. Ok. You have your rights, you are experts with weapons, how do we fix it. Really ?
 
Old 05-27-2022, 02:12 PM
 
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Why don’t the NRA and all the lovers of guns, fix this. I hear about rights. Ok. You have your rights, you are experts with weapons, how do we fix it. Really ?
My god you people sound literally deranged.

Stopping a single mad man from committing evil CAN NEVER BE STOPPED AND WILL NEVER BE STOPPED. It's been happening since the beginning of human history.

This is why we have the 2nd amendment in the first place.

How long will this take for you to understand?
 
Old 05-27-2022, 02:12 PM
 
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You are calling for deaths of those in the radical left who are planning to blockade the streets around the Supreme Court?
certainly not. gooey is one of the biggest hypocrites you'll ever encounter.
 
Old 05-27-2022, 02:21 PM
 
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Exactly, or the Antifa rioters that rioted and attempted to burn down a U.S. Courthouse in Portland.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLAfAzdzAsw
Yes. But it seems that if it didn't happen in DC, and done by those on the right, then it doesn't matter to those on the left and the left leaners/sympathizers. Even the severe injuries and deaths suffered by the cops seem to matter little to them.

Blm antifa also rioted in DC in May 2020. Most likely many in the WH, the Capitol building, etc., had to halt what they were working on and put in lockdown or taken to secure areas, I wonder if AOC suffered from PTSD from that too. Seems these are the very people that the poster I'd responded to wants to see shot to death by the cops.
 
Old 05-27-2022, 02:24 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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certainly not. gooey is one of the biggest hypocrites you'll ever encounter.
There seems to be plenty of others that are the same .. must be something in their water.
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