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between the radicalized gun owners and George soros watchers gun laws are going nowhere...i have no idea how individual persons no matter how heavily armed can fend off a trillion dollar defense dept
with national gun laws we could remove two thirds of weapons, but innocent peoples safety comes after ones right to overthrow the government
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IF Only...
If only the liberal left...
Had not raised children to believe life is fair. That one doesn't need to work hard because everyone deserves a participation trophy for doing nothing to earn one. These confused participation trophy kids are growing up to find out that it was all a lie, that in reality life is not fair and it is hard. They think something in themselves is broken since they cannot automatically continue to receive participation trophies as they try to skate through their lives.
Add to that, kids are being told that if they do wrong then it's okay, it's always someone else's fault...always.
If that wasn't confusing enough to kids, now kids are being told that they don't even know what sex they are, that what their own body tells them is a lie. And that it's okay to be sexual, even as toddlers.
Even more confusing to kids today is that they are being taught that [unborn] children are inconvenient, disposable and unhuman, parasites, that there is no other solution but to kill the unwanted. That it's not only okay to kill, it's a right! (Golly gee Wally, do you believe that kind of thinking is rubbing off on kids today?)
50 years ago school shootings weren't a thing...but then, 50 years ago children didn't receive participation trophies...
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The NRA is responsible... yadda, yadda, yadda...
There, lefties, I just saved you from having to write six pages of nonsensical drivel. Now go take a couple more tokes and have a nice day.
The Cincinnati Coup occurred in 1977 — AFTER the 1968 Gun Control Law that LBJ signed.
This was the Statement of President Johnson when he signed the Law. It pretty laid out that they did not get what they wanted “due to the powerful gun lobby” and would continue the fight.
In his remarks upon signing the act in October 1968, Johnson said:
Congress adopted most of our recommendations. But this bill—as big as this bill is—still falls short, because we just could not get the Congress to carry out the requests we made of them. I asked for the national registration of all guns and the licensing of those who carry those guns. For the fact of life is that there are over 160 million guns in this country—more firearms than families. If guns are to be kept out of the hands of the criminal, out of the hands of the insane, and out of the hands of the irresponsible, then we just must have licensing. If the criminal with a gun is to be tracked down quickly, then we must have registration in this country. The voices that blocked these safeguards were not the voices of an aroused nation. They were the voices of a powerful lobby, a gun lobby, that has prevailed for the moment in an election year.
The Leftists have to have a Gun Registry — it’s the only way to find all the Guns.
It was the overreach of the Left that exposed their ultimate plans and brought about the changes in NRA Leadership and Lobby issues.
Unfortunately, the Left is obsessed with Law abiding Citizens owning and carrying firearms. Those same Leftists refuse to prosecute Criminals with crimes involving firearms. There is a major disconnect there and a total lack of trust of the .leftist’s intentions.
Well said. Maybe if the anti firearm crowd would sit down and have a rational discussion with the pro 2A people progress might happen. Nope, the anti gunner only have an all or nothing approach, and that is why there is pushback.
Oh, and another thing the NRA is responsible for, is all the firearms safety campaigns and our current NICS background check system.
What a b.s post. Even Malcolm X was a super 2nd Amendment defender. If 6 million Jews had the 2nd amendment in Europe they wouldn't be taken to the oven so easily and many of them would have survive and their future generations.
between the radicalized gun owners and George soros watchers gun laws are going nowhere...i have no idea how individual persons no matter how heavily armed can fend off a trillion dollar defense dept
with national gun laws we could remove two thirds of weapons, but innocent peoples safety comes after ones right to overthrow the government
Every government over thrower that was inside the Capitol on the day of the MAGA riot should have been shot. You have no right to overthrow the government. We vote here.
More and more states passed concealed carry laws. Violent crime including gun crime went down. More and more states have passed constitut8ional carry. No Wild West Shows like those who oppose gun ownership said would happen. The real issue is we cut our mental health care down to nothing and when we have someone who is known to be nuts, we do nothing about it. Sandy Hook, Aurora, Stoneman Douglas, here, they were all cases of someone who came to the attention of various authorities and they did nothing, not even a Baker hold to see if they were nuts.
We wouldn't be seeing so many mass shootings in the United States, such as most recently the one earlier this week at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas, if only the so-called Cincinnati Coup of 1977 hadn't happened in that year's conference of the National Rifle Association (NRA). (For more info on that, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolt_at_Cincinnati.)
Until then, the NRA was actually pro-gun control - take a look at this link. What the Cincinnati Coup - also known as the Revolt at Cincinnati or the Cincinnati Revolution - did was to change the NRA from a nonpartisan, relatively small organization of hunting, conservation, and marksmanship to a powerful, politicized lobby group defending the constitutional right to bear arms. Ever since then, it has been allied with many Republican politicians to the point that those politicians have stopped concrete action on gun control that has easily passed muster in many other developed and even developing countries.
Without the Cincinnati Coup of 1977, there would have been way way fewer mass shootings in the US than there have been. The interval been the mass shootings would have been much much longer, and gun control laws would have been passed much quicker - like Australia after the 1996 shooting at the Port Arthur historical/tourist site, New Zealand after the 2019 mosque shooting in Christchurch, or Canada after the 2020 shooting in Nova Scotia.
Moving forward, while moments of silence, thoughts & prayers, etc. do have their place, what's most needed by far is for the NRA to revert to its pre-1977 state so that it doesn't get in the way of gun control legislation in Washington DC. I'm sure it's not easy at all and many Republican politicians would resist that move, but I'm afraid that's the only way.
Good lord, a Salon.com article talking about the NRA.
"Laws" are not responsible for mass shootings. Get ahold of yourself and stop being so emotional.
The NRA exists today because of radical people like you who want to take a sledgehammer to the constitution every time a mad man commits a crime.
People like you didn't really exist back in the old days when almost everyone owned a gun because they HAD to in order to survive on their land.
The NRA is at best a "support Wayne in the lifestyle to which he has become accustomed" lobby
The National Rifle Association is a 501(c)(4) membership organization with four 501(c)(3) charitable subsidiaries and a political action committee (PAC). Despite gun owners turning away from the wishy-washy NRA and towards less compromised organizations (SAF, GOA, and NAGR) , the overwhelming majority of NRA funding comes from membership dues and donations sourced from individuals.
For now...
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More and more states have passed constitutional carry. No Wild West Shows like those who oppose gun ownership said would happen.
Meanwhile those same individuals who used to fund the NRA have migrated to "no compromise" organizations like National Association for Gun Rights, which now has more "dues paying members" than the National Rifle Association and which helped the US states get to fully 50% constitutional carry, a victory which the NRA claims for itself.
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The NRA isn't the only firearms-related lobbying organization...
The NRA is not a firearms lobby. It is a gun owners and gun safety lobby.
The NRA is a "support Wayne in the lifestyle to which he has become accustomed" lobby
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Yep.
The NRA is at best a "support Wayne in the lifestyle to which he has become accustomed" lobby
