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Old 05-29-2022, 09:12 AM
 
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Maybe you'd have a better idea if you actually lived in Chicago.
They don't have to live in Chicago to be able to see what kind of sh1t place it is in part thanks to the useless politicians running it


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Old 05-29-2022, 09:13 AM
 
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An American President who mocked a journalist's disability was elected in 2016. Many people will overlook anything (or even deny it) as long as said person tells them what they want to hear. Some people will overlook anything as long as said politician doesn't come after them personally.
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Old 05-29-2022, 09:17 AM
 
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An American President who mocked a journalist's disability was elected in 2016. Many people will overlook anything (or even deny it) as long as said person tells them what they want to hear. Some people will overlook anything as long as said politician doesn't come after them personally.
https://youtu.be/CsaB3ynIZH4

Don’t let facts stand in your way to smear someone. Video compilation show his mannerisms not directed to disabled.
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Old 05-29-2022, 09:18 AM
 
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They don't have to live in Chicago to be able to see what kind of sh1t place it is in part thanks to the useless politicians running it
Actually, those away from the city will only be familiar with the most sensational stories that come away from there. They won't hear about the efforts against public violence or the positive efforts of municipal officials.

Then, they say 'Why is no one protesting street crime in Chicago?' when they don't know what protests or anti-crime efforts there are in Chicago.
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Old 05-29-2022, 09:20 AM
 
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why would chicago... you can stop right there and the answer is because chicago.
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Old 05-29-2022, 09:28 AM
 
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Yes there was Marion Barry. However, conservatives never mention Buddy Cianci in Providence. It is interesting to look up his record. And his jail record.
Or how about Louisiana.

David Duke was in the KKK and did alot of Neo-Nazi activity. In 1991, he ran for governor of Louisiana as a Republican. It was a race between Duke, Roemer, and Edwin Edwards. While Edwards had the highest percentage of votes, it wasn't the 50% that was needed. He got 33.76% of the vote while David Duke got 31.71% of the vote. Buddy Roemer, the governor a time, got 26.51% of the vote.

Buddy Roemer was actually one of the better governors of Louisiana. Roemer had no ties to hate or extremism. He fought hard against corruption (Louisiana is one of the most, if not THE MOST, corrupt states in America). And Duke ended up with more votes than him. Duke, the man who was linked to alot of racist extremism in the past, managed to beat a man, who was a non-extremist conservative. Duke managed enough votes for that. More people wanted an extremist bigot than the governor they currently had.

Now, in the run-off, Duke was beaten by Edwards. However, it was a weird race. It boiled down to a former governor, know for questionable morals and corruption, vs a former Grand Wizard. Duke lost, but the fact that he got almost 39% of the vote tells me that there were just enough people who really weren't concerned about what he was known for.
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Old 05-29-2022, 09:43 AM
 
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Maybe you'd have a better idea if you actually lived in Chicago.
I know what Chicago is about, politically. Machine politics. Chicago is a huge city, but so much of politics boils down to neighborhoods, ethnic coalitions, etc. Some politicians could play certain ethnic groups against each other. Votes got exchanged for political favors. Chicago literally evolved into a political market place. In Chicago, the Irish were often given jobs in the police department while Italians were often given first dibs at transportation jobs. Chicago's individualistic political culture has allowed corruption to flourish. And unlike New York, there were never really any reformer politicians to change this.

I'm about to reference Mike Royko again. Royko mentioned, humorously, that in multiethnic Chicago, the Irish were quite dominant in the city's politics for these reasons......

1) Coming to America already speaking English (it's also theorized that this is why the Irish had such large concentrations in police forces in New York, Chicago, New Orleans, San Francisco, etc).
2) The Irish didn't come to America with any ethnic rivalries/hatred from the old country. With Ireland being isolated from the rest of Europe, the only other group the Irish were at loggerheads with were the English. While so many European countries were fighting wars with one another throughout the 19th century, Ireland was basically isolated from that.
3) Those who didn't like Chicago-style politics just left the city for the suburbs.

This is the source: https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...181-story.html
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Old 05-29-2022, 09:49 AM
 
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Maybe you'd have a better idea if you actually lived in Chicago.
I do live in chicago. Not that it matters. Even if I did not live in Chicago the violence would exist. How funny you think it matters where I live. Stick to the topic. Maybe if YOU lived in Chicago you would see how insane the violence is!

People from the burbs and other states who used to come here ALL the time will not come near the city anymore! Nobody will even come downtown or to other areas once safe, as they are no longer safe!

Why people vote for this and then cry about it makes no sense. They have no right to complain about violence when they vote the way they do.

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Old 05-29-2022, 09:59 AM
 
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I know what Chicago is about, politically. Machine politics. Chicago is a huge city, but so much of politics boils down to neighborhoods, ethnic coalitions, etc. Some politicians could play certain ethnic groups against each other. Votes got exchanged for political favors. Chicago literally evolved into a political market place. In Chicago, the Irish were often given jobs in the police department while Italians were often given first dibs at transportation jobs. Chicago's individualistic political culture has allowed corruption to flourish. And unlike New York, there were never really any reformer politicians to change this.

I'm about to reference Mike Royko again. Royko mentioned, humorously, that in multiethnic Chicago, the Irish were quite dominant in the city's politics for these reasons......
All of that is kind of dated. Lori Lightfoot is mayor today because of differences between two blocs of Irish politicos.

Remember, the mayoral race is non-partisan. Among others running we had a Daley, a Chicago Irish guy whose folks were on the outs with the Daleys and an Irish guy from the Bronx. That voting bloc was diluted. Blacks came out in greater force then the Hispanics and Lori won.

Remember, anyone who talks about the 'Chicago machine' or the 'Daley machine' is probably wrong.
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Old 05-29-2022, 10:13 AM
 
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The first six story's on the news this Morning are all about people being gun downed and stabbed in this city. Those are just the ones that made the news. And it is only Sunday morning. Cannot wait to see the final numbers!

But it is ok lori lighthead will shout at reporters claiming everything is great. because like all dems she could not care less. Hell like all dems she is all for violence. Calling to arms and making threats. Nice example to set!
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