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Old 05-27-2022, 03:51 PM
 
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It's because it lays bare the harsh reality of the world.

Modern Liberals like to deal in hypotheticals and in fantasy lands. That's why they love Twitter. It's why Hollywood has become nothing but a regurgitation of the way the world looks to a liberal..."safe," non-offensive (and unrealistic). It's why they invented "Safe Spaces" and "Trophies for All." It's why no one is ever allow to offend anyone, etc.

The 2nd Amendment exists basically because as human beings, we have no idea what's going to happen tomorrow. Everything isn't neatly packaged for us and we may have to think and act on our OWN to solve problems. Our framers understood this in 1789 and realized that government was not omnipotent and the autonomous citizens themselves would have to take care of their own matters and interests. The government couldn't be around every corner "protecting" them.

Liberals can't fathom the idea that bad things happen and THEY may have to take responsibility themselves for them...the government may not be able to do it.

That very idea scares them. It's why every time a terrible crime occurs, they immediately talk about all sorts of new ways to make government solve the problem, even if in reality there is no way for it to! Surely this just loophole in government that we need to fill in! There must be some way the "trained experts" could solve this? Sure I don't have to?

In the mind of a liberal anti-gunner, there MUST BE some way to make bad things stop, so that they don't ever get down to the personal level where THEY THEMSELVES would have to act. They don't value having full dominion over their own lives like conservative tend to.

Seeing other people freely accept this reality makes them nervous. They call them "ammosexuals" and such just to try to make themselves feel better, but in reality the crux, I believe, of some people not being able to fathom the gift that we have in the USA of unalienable rights to defend ourselves is that...

IT MEANS THEY HAVE TO ACCEPT THAT REALITY CAN BE HARSH AND NOT PERFECT...It's almost a defense mechanism....for people that can't accept reality.
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Old 05-27-2022, 04:29 PM
 
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The 2nd Amendment exists basically because as human beings, we have no idea what's going to happen tomorrow. Everything isn't neatly packaged for us and we may have to think and act on our OWN to solve problems. Our framers understood this in 1789 and realized that government was not omnipotent and the autonomous citizens themselves would have to take care of their own matters and interests. The government couldn't be around every corner "protecting" them.
More like there wasn't a standing army and the slave states wanted militias to put down slave rebellions and to capture runaway slaves. We do have a U.S. military now and we do not endorse slavery anymore.
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Old 05-27-2022, 04:32 PM
 
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Even easier - tyrants are typically not fond of bulwarks against tyranny, and the 2nd Amendment's explicit protection of the first and most powerful of those bulwarks would probably be right at the top of the "really really super not fond of" list.

It is that simple. Hunters don't like the rabbits having guns.
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Old 05-27-2022, 04:33 PM
 
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More like there wasn't a standing army and the slave states wanted militias to put down slave rebellions and to capture runaway slaves. We do have a U.S. military now and we do not endorse slavery anymore.
Do you think Ukraine wishes they had a couple hundred thousand men familiar with guns from shooting all their lives today?
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Old 05-27-2022, 04:42 PM
 
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Do you think Ukraine wishes they had a couple hundred thousand men familiar with guns from shooting all their lives today?
Every insurgent force that has marksmen who have skills and practice with their chosen platform has held vastly superior forces at bay since the advent of powderless ammunition and rifled barrels.

You defeat your opponent in one of two ways - make them unable to fight you or make them unwilling. Snipers excel at making enemy forces unwilling to fight. Small unit, guerrilla forces with an abundance of marksmen can wreak havoc against numerically and materially advantaged forces.
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Old 05-27-2022, 04:48 PM
 
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Even easier - tyrants are typically not fond of bulwarks against tyranny, and the 2nd Amendment's explicit protection of the first and most powerful of those bulwarks would probably be right at the top of the "really really super not fond of" list.

It is that simple. Hunters don't like the rabbits having guns.


I keep posting this wherever I can so those who've never read it will:

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"There are only a few laws in history that are universally applicable. One of these is that the ruling classes do not want the peasantry armed. They will do what they can to convince you that to be armed is dangerous. They will attempt to do this while they themselves are surrounded by armed body guards. Idiots will not notice this hypocrisy and sycophants will ignore it. Fools will surrender their arms in the name of "safety". They will insensibly surrender their liberty at the same time. This is how slaves are made."
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Old 05-27-2022, 04:50 PM
 
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I keep posting this wherever I can so those who've never read it will:
Also, one of the main defining characteristics of "the state" is a monopoly on force and violence.

Armed citizens present competition to that monopoly, and monopoly holders hate competition.
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Old 05-27-2022, 04:53 PM
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It's because it lays bare the harsh reality of the world.

Modern Liberals like to deal in hypotheticals and in fantasy lands. That's why they love Twitter. It's why Hollywood has become nothing but a regurgitation of the way the world looks to a liberal..."safe," non-offensive (and unrealistic). It's why they invented "Safe Spaces" and "Trophies for All." It's why no one is ever allow to offend anyone, etc.

The 2nd Amendment exists basically because as human beings, we have no idea what's going to happen tomorrow. Everything isn't neatly packaged for us and we may have to think and act on our OWN to solve problems. Our framers understood this in 1789 and realized that government was not omnipotent and the autonomous citizens themselves would have to take care of their own matters and interests. The government couldn't be around every corner "protecting" them.

Liberals can't fathom the idea that bad things happen and THEY may have to take responsibility themselves for them...the government may not be able to do it.

That very idea scares them. It's why every time a terrible crime occurs, they immediately talk about all sorts of new ways to make government solve the problem, even if in reality there is no way for it to! Surely this just loophole in government that we need to fill in! There must be some way the "trained experts" could solve this? Sure I don't have to?

In the mind of a liberal anti-gunner, there MUST BE some way to make bad things stop, so that they don't ever get down to the personal level where THEY THEMSELVES would have to act. They don't value having full dominion over their own lives like conservative tend to.

Seeing other people freely accept this reality makes them nervous. They call them "ammosexuals" and such just to try to make themselves feel better, but in reality the crux, I believe, of some people not being able to fathom the gift that we have in the USA of unalienable rights to defend ourselves is that...

IT MEANS THEY HAVE TO ACCEPT THAT REALITY CAN BE HARSH AND NOT PERFECT...It's almost a defense mechanism....for people that can't accept reality.
Liberals love twitter. That is just rich. Do you even realize what a funny thing that is to say?
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Old 05-27-2022, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Palm Coast FL
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Also, one of the main defining characteristics of "the state" is a monopoly on force and violence.

Armed citizens present competition to that monopoly, and monopoly holders hate competition.
So you think you are a match for the U.S. military? Thinking of overthrowing the government? Then you shouldn't have guns!!
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Old 05-27-2022, 04:57 PM
 
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Do you think Ukraine wishes they had a couple hundred thousand men familiar with guns from shooting all their lives today?

is it Mexico or Canad that will invade? we have giant oceans protecting us that Ukraine does not...


ignoring the firepower of our military and thinking private citizens can over throw it seem awfully like fantasy to me
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