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Last I heard, the door was actually unlocked. Nobody tried to open it, they just assumed it was locked.
One report I saw showed how those classroom doors work. They lock from the outside only. Inside, there is a push bar, so they can be opened from the inside, regardless of whether it has been locked from the outside or not. The teacher would have had to go outside to lock the door, if he/she was inside the classroom.
Shouldn't those inside push bars have a way to be locked. We used to use an allen wrench type tool to lock them in our exterior dorm hallway doors. Years ago of course.
I’m not watching that video. Cops standing around loitering while the shooter was gunning down kids.
Same issue with the Parkland shooting, campus cop was too afraid to go inside. Same with the Orlando shooting, cops did not go in. For the Colorado grocery shooting, the cops said they “were afraid the shooter had body armor.”
Where is the training? Even if the shooter is Rambo, get in there and take him out. That’s what those tax payer funded heavy shields and bullet proof vests are for.
Good points. The problem is 100% bad training. First body armor can easily be defeated. Cops all wear body armor, but once in a while one of them gets shot and killed. Not often, but once in a while.
Body armor doesn't generally protect the head, arms or legs. But if you watch police training they receive zero training in how to shoot those parts of the body. It's always shoot for the torso because that's the biggest part of the body. Translation: we are not good enough shots to hit a small target, so we have to shoot for the largest possible target. It's just bad training.
A common question I hear law enforcement asked is why they can't shoot a person with a knife in the legs instead of killing them. The response always goes something like, leg shots don't stop a suspect. Which is complete BS. The King Soopers shooter that you mentioned was taken out with leg shots. He survived getting shot in the legs, but it stopped his rampage. Blowing somebody's legs out from under them is a highly effective way of stopping them. Sure if a shooter gets shot in the legs he could theoretically continue shooting, but he would have to do it while laying on the ground in extreme pain. The suspects threat level would be greatly reduced at that point, if not completely eliminated.
But again cops are not trained for that. So when they see an active shooter with body armor, they don't know what to do, so they just run away. Because they don't have any training to deal with that situation.
What a bunch of cowards! You can also see that there were 3 different departments there. Clearly Uvalde Police and Border Patrol. I'm not sure if the other uniforms are DPS, National Guard, or Uvalde ISD police.
All of them need their careers as law enforcement ended NOW.
BTW Tony Plohetski is a local journalistic hero in Austin. He's broken so many stories locally and nationally, I've never seen anything like it. He's an incredible journalist with sources beyond what most journalists could imagine. https://www.statesman.com/staff/3546...ony-plohetski/
The families however are very upset that this was leaked. It was supposed to be released to them as a group, with counselors available. And some of the outlets did not mute the children screams which they are also upset about.
Has it been confirmed that the "keys wouldn't unlock door" was totally a lie or not? I never saw Arredondo in any of these clips.
I read that the door was never actually locked. They never tried it. Even if it had been, the classroom had windows and the window in the classroom door had been shot out by the shooter so they had that as well. They could’ve tried to get a shot off.
Good points. The problem is 100% bad training. First body armor can easily be defeated. Cops all wear body armor, but once in a while one of them gets shot and killed. Not often, but once in a while.
Body armor doesn't generally protect the head, arms or legs. But if you watch police training they receive zero training in how to shoot those parts of the body. It's always shoot for the torso because that's the biggest part of the body. Translation: we are not good enough shots to hit a small target, so we have to shoot for the largest possible target. It's just bad training.
A common question I hear law enforcement asked is why they can't shoot a person with a knife in the legs instead of killing them. The response always goes something like, leg shots don't stop a suspect. Which is complete BS. The King Soopers shooter that you mentioned was taken out with leg shots. He survived getting shot in the legs, but it stopped his rampage. Blowing somebody's legs out from under them is a highly effective way of stopping them. Sure if a shooter gets shot in the legs he could theoretically continue shooting, but he would have to do it while laying on the ground in extreme pain. The suspects threat level would be greatly reduced at that point, if not completely eliminated.
But again cops are not trained for that. So when they see an active shooter with body armor, they don't know what to do, so they just run away. Because they don't have any training to deal with that situation.
I agree with that. I read before that Israeli cops shoot people in the legs vs killing them, who they suspect to be terrorists, so that they can question them and get information out of them.
I agree with that. I read before that Israeli cops shoot people in the legs vs killing them, who they suspect to be terrorists, so that they can question them and get information out of them.
That too. I believe cops are trained in leg shots in almost every country outside of the US. In the US the metallity is just kill, kill, kill. Which should not be the goal of law enforcement. Their goal should be to solve crimes and bring suspects to justice. It's kind of hard to do either one, if the suspect is dead.
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