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Old 06-11-2022, 07:21 AM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Doesn't matter. The number of teachers in Texas who would choose to carry is very small. Especially given the 80 hour training requirement and the associated cost, which appears to be about $4,000. Districts are not going to pick up that cost.
Oh, it does matter, because what you said isn’t true. It’s great to have choices, which they have.
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Old 06-11-2022, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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Did the Texas shooter target that school specifically or was it a case where he crashed the stolen truck nearby and he went to it. If the door had been locked would he have moved on to another target?



We lock our houses, we lock our cars, we lock up our valuables. A lock is the first line of defense and it is so simple.



I think the open door at that school allowed the shooter his opportunity. An open window could have done the same thing.



The guy was an angry loser, deranged enough to shoot his grandmother but I think the school was just an opportunity. If not for that open door he probably would have moved on to another "soft" target down the road.



Imagine the guilt the person is feeling that left that door ajar....
"Guilt"?? That idiot is going to be sued into poverty by the parents.
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Old 06-11-2022, 03:18 PM
 
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Oh, it does matter, because what you said isn’t true. It’s great to have choices, which they have.
Where is your proof that what I've said is not true? My assertions are as valid as yours.
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Old 06-11-2022, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Where is your proof that what I've said is not true? My assertions are as valid as yours.
You said teachers aren’t going to have a choice if they want to carry or not, and that none of them are going to want to carry firearms….and after days and posts of strawman arguments and deflection, you still haven’t provided proof to your claims…and contrary to your belief, feelings don’t equal facts.
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Old 06-11-2022, 06:02 PM
 
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You said teachers aren’t going to have a choice if they want to carry or not, and that none of them are going to want to carry firearms….and after days and posts of strawman arguments and deflection, you still haven’t provided proof to your claims…and contrary to your belief, feelings don’t equal facts.
Teachers DO NOT HAVE A CHOICE on carrying if their district does not allow it. Nor do you have any proof that very many would.

The Texas branch of the American Federation of Teachers did a poll of members asking "Do you want to be armed?" 76% said no https://www.texastribune.org/2022/06...-armed-survey/ And before you harp on unions, teachers unions in Texas have zero power. Teachers cannot strike and cannot collectively bargain. The AFT in Texas helps teachers with grievances against school districts, and lobbies the Legislature.

It's time for you to quit deflecting. Where is the support for your statement that teachers would carry if they had the choice?
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Old 06-11-2022, 06:11 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Teachers DO NOT HAVE A CHOICE on carrying if their district does not allow it. Nor do you have any proof that very many would.

The Texas branch of the American Federation of Teachers did a poll of members asking "Do you want to be armed?" 76% said no https://www.texastribune.org/2022/06...-armed-survey/ And before you harp on unions, teachers unions in Texas have zero power. Teachers cannot strike and cannot collectively bargain. The AFT in Texas helps teachers with grievances against school districts, and lobbies the Legislature.

It's time for you to quit deflecting. Where is the support for your statement that teachers would carry if they had the choice?
Lol. In districts that allow it they will have a choice. Nobody said otherwise.

So 24% is not zero, and is many when there’s 65,000 of them.

Never said where they weren’t allowed they’d have a choice to carry, and you’re the one that originally brought it up with where they could carry. I said I’d wager many will choose to and it’s great that they’d have a choice, and they do and 24% said they would. You just proved what I said with your post.
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Old 06-11-2022, 07:45 PM
 
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I'm not sure anything can be done. A school or supermarket it doesn't matter. It's all about the body count.

These sociopaths want to go out in a blaze of "glory" and have their name ring loud on Tick Toc, twitter or whatever.
It reminds me of suicide bombers in a way. They blow themselves up to take out as many people as possible. It's the same spirit of mind involved, just slightly different motivation.
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Old 06-11-2022, 08:44 PM
 
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What is logical about an anti spending Republican wanting to spend a lot of money to put a band aid over a problem that every other country has already figured out how to solve?
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Old 06-11-2022, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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What is logical about an anti spending Republican wanting to spend a lot of money to put a band aid over a problem that every other country has already figured out how to solve?
Republicans are in favor of putting violent criminals away for life, along with putting police in schools, unfortunately Dems use the ridiculous excuse that it turns schools into prisons…and cry that police in schools is racist. Hence it’s not about saving victims, it’s about banning all guns that criminals will acquire anyway. Dictators and criminals prefer the people unarmed. On the bright side, guns aren’t going anywhere so they’ll be screaming for nothing.
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Old 06-12-2022, 04:17 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Republicans are in favor of putting violent criminals away for life, along with putting police in schools, unfortunately Dems use the ridiculous excuse that it turns schools into prisons…and cry that police in schools is racist. Hence it’s not about saving victims, it’s about banning all guns that criminals will acquire anyway. Dictators and criminals prefer the people unarmed. On the bright side, guns aren’t going anywhere so they’ll be screaming for nothing.
Speaking of strawmen...

That was rather a rough question to face head on, huh...?
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