Remember The Intent Of The Second Amendment - To Protect Us From Government (wage, generations)
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You are totally wrong in your assessment of the 2nd.
It was not to protect against a government takeover of the citizens, but to be able to arm the people who would comprise a militia to ward of a foreign nation from invading once again, as the British did in the revolutionary war.
It has absolutely nothing to do with our government overtaking the populace.
You will note the first few words in the 2nd, "A well regulated militia".
It states nothing about a well regulated citizenry.
The founding fathers knew this newly formed country would need to protect itself from another invading source, so the 2nd was adopted to make sure a well armed, and regulated militia would be at the ready, not the general public.
George Washington, as well as the rest of the founding fathers, would disagree with you. You literally breezed past an entire post full of quotes from the founding fathers in order to post your non realistic take on what they meant. If you can’t debate honestly, why bother?
I agree with the 2A staying in place. But we are already there. And most of Americans are just busy consuming. As woman’s right’s being taken away and voting rights are being stripped. It’s happening already.
You think it’s gonna be with tanks rolling in? No, it’s gonna be under your nose while you stuff your face with jalapeños poppers because fast-food accessibility = freedom.
Covid was a test run for American priorities. Get more mad over a haircut than the death of a citizen by police or the fact that the upper class get off easy and you suffer.
If taking on the government is the chief reason, should be demanding private access to anti-tank missiles, SAMs, nuclear weapons, etc. No? Why just guns?
During the Revolutionary War era, “militia” referred to groups of men who banded together to protect their communities, towns, colonies and eventually states, once the United States declared its independence from Great Britain in 1776.
Many people in America at the time believed governments used soldiers to oppress the people, and thought the federal government should only be allowed to raise armies (with full-time, paid soldiers) when facing foreign adversaries. For all other purposes, they believed, it should turn to part-time militias, or ordinary civilians using their own weapons.
But as militias had proved insufficient against the British, the Constitutional Convention gave the new federal government the power to establish a standing army, even in peacetime.
However, opponents of a strong central government (known as Anti-Federalists) argued that this federal army deprived states of their ability to defend themselves against oppression. They feared that Congress might abuse its constitutional power of “organizing, arming and disciplining the Militia” by failing to keep militiamen equipped with adequate arms.
So, shortly after the U.S. Constitution was officially ratified, James Madison proposed the Second Amendment as a way to empower these state militias. While the Second Amendment did not answer the broader Anti-Federalist concern that the federal government had too much power, it did establish the principle (held by both Federalists and their opponents) that the government did not have the authority to disarm citizens.
During the Revolutionary War era, “militia” referred to groups of men who banded together to protect their communities
Right. But in the Second Amendment it refers to "well-regulated" militia. This is not just a group of men who decide to grab guns and go fight. The militia in the new United States was trained, and had a command structure, reporting to the Governor. The militia could be called out by the Governor in times of trouble.
George Washington, as well as the rest of the founding fathers, would disagree with you. You literally breezed past an entire post full of quotes from the founding fathers in order to post your non realistic take on what they meant. If you can’t debate honestly, why bother?
That's because people like that have their minds in a vault, are living in a fantasy world and refuse to accept reality. But they're not smart enough to realize that all they are doing is making complete fools out of themselves for all the world to see.
Of course they can't have an honest debate that's why I completely ignore and refuse to respond to them. Like mind numbed robots all they can do is repeat the same old lies and talking points. Even when faced with the hard cold facts and reality.
I don't think the government would be worried about citizens with guns...
On top of that, conservatives love guns so much that they think any regulation makes them think you're trying to take their toy away. They try to turn it into a more serious conversation about fighting tyranny.
Dude you are not going to fight against the tyrannical government okay? You are not the Viet-Cong you are not the Taliban. You will never be able to fight successfully against the American government if it wanted to shove its boot up your ass, as it does all day every day. And all you do is just shut up and you keep consuming the garbage that you consume on a daily basis and refuse to recognize that you're being f*ed over all the g*ddamn time. So it's already happening. You talk about a tyrannical government but we're already here.
A tyrannical government isn't when they tell you you can't get a five-dollar jalapeno popper at Applebee's It's the surveillance state that we have, it's the police state that we have, and it's the severe lack of freedom of travel that you engage in as long as it's done through a capitalist framework. Most Americans a cucked when they're like "I deserve to be in a situation where I can't pay for health care" You know what I mean there are people who legitimately believe that they think that that's not tyranny they think it's not medical tyranny when you can't get health care because it's just too expensive you're paying a butt-load out of pocket. You're terrified to go to the doctor because you don't want to get medically bankrupt. That's medical tyranny. But to you, the real health care tyranny is when the government's like "here's a free vaccine".
None of these conservative pricks are gonna get together and actively dismantle the federal government. They're not gonna be able to do that, and the republican party is already doing that. The democratic party is also looking over and allowing that to happen anyways. And they're doing it at the best of corporations.
You are powerless and if you think you're a brave hero a brave mujahideen who's gonna be able to fight back against the American government and like actually organize, guess what dude you can't even organize in a workplace. Good luck! You don't even want to organize in your damn workplace. You're like "yeah we're gonna fight back against the government that's why I need a gun". Bro, you can't even fight back against your boss who’s taking advantage of you. You don't even have control over your own life as an adult dude. 80% of your life is spent in a corporate office or in some kind of workplace and you have no control over that. You can't even organize to take control over that in some meaningful capacity because you think that's communism. Then you turn around and you think you're gonna fight back against tyranny when the government is already screwing you on behalf of corpos.
Are you joking? Neither the Russians or Americans were able to defeat the Mujahideen. Go back and chew on that awhile.
I don't think the government would be worried about citizens with guns...
On top of that, conservatives love guns so much that they think any regulation makes them think you're trying to take their toy away. They try to turn it into a more serious conversation about fighting tyranny.
Dude you are not going to fight against the tyrannical government okay? You are not the Viet-Cong you are not the Taliban. You will never be able to fight successfully against the American government if it wanted to shove its boot up your ass, as it does all day every day. And all you do is just shut up and you keep consuming the garbage that you consume on a daily basis and refuse to recognize that you're being f*ed over all the g*ddamn time. So it's already happening. You talk about a tyrannical government but we're already here.
A tyrannical government isn't when they tell you you can't get a five-dollar jalapeno popper at Applebee's It's the surveillance state that we have, it's the police state that we have, and it's the severe lack of freedom of travel that you engage in as long as it's done through a capitalist framework. Most Americans a cucked when they're like "I deserve to be in a situation where I can't pay for health care" You know what I mean there are people who legitimately believe that they think that that's not tyranny they think it's not medical tyranny when you can't get health care because it's just too expensive you're paying a butt-load out of pocket. You're terrified to go to the doctor because you don't want to get medically bankrupt. That's medical tyranny. But to you, the real health care tyranny is when the government's like "here's a free vaccine".
None of these conservative pricks are gonna get together and actively dismantle the federal government. They're not gonna be able to do that, and the republican party is already doing that. The democratic party is also looking over and allowing that to happen anyways. And they're doing it at the best of corporations.
You are powerless and if you think you're a brave hero a brave mujahideen who's gonna be able to fight back against the American government and like actually organize, guess what dude you can't even organize in a workplace. Good luck! You don't even want to organize in your damn workplace. You're like "yeah we're gonna fight back against the government that's why I need a gun". Bro, you can't even fight back against your boss who’s taking advantage of you. You don't even have control over your own life as an adult dude. 80% of your life is spent in a corporate office or in some kind of workplace and you have no control over that. You can't even organize to take control over that in some meaningful capacity because you think that's communism. Then you turn around and you think you're gonna fight back against tyranny when the government is already screwing you on behalf of corpos.
Tell that to the Viet Cong.
You do not defeat a superior army by engaging them in a conventional fashion on their terms. You allow them to come in and allow the combatants to be indistinguishable from the civilians.
All the tech in the world does not help combat a guerilla army in which every "civilian" you encounter may be a combatant and there is no way to tell the civilians from the enemy. Only an idiot would engage a superior modern army on their terms.
MANY of the rural civilians are former military personnel who have been trained by the army and have been outdoors hunting and knowing their way around the countryside their whole lives.
You do not defeat a superior army by engaging them in a conventional fashion on their terms. You allow them to come in and allow the combatants to be indistinguishable from the civilians.
All the tech in the world does not help combat a guerilla army in which every "civilian" you encounter may be a combatant and there is no way to tell the civilians from the enemy. Only an idiot would engage a superior modern army on their terms.
The entire point is not just the hardware but the fact that we already live under a tyrannical government. For decades. But so long as you have your jalapeño poppers your ok with it. Because lack of poppers = lack of freedom.
But sleep on actual violations of freedom.
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