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Old 06-01-2022, 07:34 AM
 
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'81 million' people not only won't do anything about it, they promote it and encourage it.
Well then technically, those people are part of the problem then. They present a national security threat for the rest of us.


Centuries ago, they knew how to deal with 'tories', I think we need to start dealing with them in the same way.
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Old 06-01-2022, 07:47 AM
 
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Oh please believe it.
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Old 06-01-2022, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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in 1970 a conservative memo was circulated pushing companies to use more lobbyist...this has turned into a nightmare



and a circulating back and forth position from government job back to corporate job now for decades, our government is in bed with corporations and that is fascism as described by mussolini its inventor...i am sorry to say all this right wing fanaticism about one particular party only enables more corruption as it takes focus off the lobbyists
Agreed...the Red vs. Blue stuff is a colossal misdirection that has become media's primary mission...after making $.

Total collapse, followed by an across the board gov't purge is the only path I can see.

The odds of true conservaties/libertarians like Rand Paul, & Thomas Massie, gaining control is nill, even though they are our only hope to prevent collapse & the anarchy that follows.
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Old 06-01-2022, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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We need a Constitutional Convention of States or Secession. That is the only way we can save ourselves from the scourge of liberalism.
Maybe after the 2024 election well have enough states to convene a Convention of States.

I think we'd need something extreme to happen to our economy or push voters into supporting Pubs & a Convention. I don't see independent & moderate Dems getting behind Republicans unless the collapse has begun.
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Old 06-01-2022, 09:35 AM
 
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Maybe after the 2024 election well have enough states to convene a Convention of States.

I think we'd need something extreme to happen to our economy or push voters into supporting Pubs & a Convention. I don't see independent & moderate Dems getting behind Republicans unless the collapse has begun.
I think we are on the verge of collapse.
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Old 06-01-2022, 09:37 AM
 
Location: South of Heaven
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Agree. And it's going to bring us down. We are past the point of no return because NO ONE will do anything about it.

People have bought in to the narrative that no matter how brazen and open the government's corruption is, we need to tolerate it because it's better than mean tweets.
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Old 06-01-2022, 09:41 AM
 
Location: South of Heaven
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Maybe after the 2024 election well have enough states to convene a Convention of States.

I think we'd need something extreme to happen to our economy or push voters into supporting Pubs & a Convention. I don't see independent & moderate Dems getting behind Republicans unless the collapse has begun.

Now is not the time for that. We are not the people we once were and should wait until we are better than we are before opening certain doors. The modern left would wreck us if we let them get their paws on the Constitution. You see the games they play and the dirty tricks they pull...you want that crap going on at a Constitutional Convention?
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Old 06-01-2022, 09:47 AM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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The lifeguards belong to the Los Angeles County Lifeguard Association union.
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Old 06-01-2022, 10:17 AM
 
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Yeah, if you buy that 81 million voted for him. I certainly don't.
There’s no way. No one was interested in Biden. No chance more blacks voted for Biden than Obama. No f’ing way. TDS is alive and well but nowhere near 80M have TDS to the point they’d vote for this nightmare.

Are the Dems purposely trying to lose the next election? How much worse can they make things?
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Old 06-01-2022, 10:42 AM
 
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Recall, the congressional baseball for charity practice where a gunman opened fire. Lobbyists and Congress Critters were on the field. They openly associate with each other on a first name basis. And it’s as bipartisan as it gets.

There are 12,000 +/- registered lobbyists in the US and an unknown number who are not registered.

Both sides each spend $billion on the Presidential election.

That extreme partisans tend to claim it’s the opposing team.
because of LBJ s social spending, big business decide to fight back and powell was a corporate lawyer
nothing about the democratic party involved, except that both partys NOW work with lobbyists


this political activism took place two months prior to nomination to supreme court


it is bipartisan NOW but the fact that it exists falls on the business/conservative party


all the crap directed towards democrats and pizza shops is mis-direction at its finest




read for yourself


https://reclaimdemocracy.org/powell_memo_lewis/
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