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Mull on this as Trumps
" : Timing of speech til the anarchy commenced fits the incitement .
Query law site:
The two legal prongs that constitute incitement of imminent lawless action are as follows: Advocacy of force or criminal activity does not receive First Amendment protections if (1) the advocacy is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action, and (2) is likely to incite or produce such action..
The before , during, and after all had been aligned. There was nothing peaceful about ramming doors in-between police bodies. There was nothing peaceful with the tear gas and smoke bombs cast about at different entrances to rush the doors.
Let me know when you find the scalper who was selling tour tickets that day.. until then ...these supporters of Trump's lies eagerly did his bidding. That's a fact.
Let me get this straight, Pelosi is using Congress to do a criminal investigation against a private citizen of the opposing party and publicly accusing him of crimes but the law has nothing to do with the topic? Whatever you say. I didn't know you find people criminally guilty without the law. Amazing.
The Committee does not have the power of law enforcement. If crimes are uncovered during the investigation, they can turn the information over to DOJ or request indictments, but that is the extent of it.
The ones we have seen accusing Trump of crimes have been his lawyers, White House employees who worked close enough to him that they would have had daily contact, the heads of federal agencies including the heads of his own DOJ, his Attorney General, republican secretaries of state and election officials, Capitol Police officers who were at the Capitol on 1/6, and an assortment of people arrested for participating in the insurrection. All republicans and MAGAs, testifying under oath under penalty of perjury.
The ones who can testify and refute the ones whose testimony we have heard, Jordan, Biggs, Scavino, Meadows, and Navarro, have refused to testify under oath. Flynn and Eastman could have set the record straight when they gave testimony, but they were both too busy pleading the Fifth to try to temporarily keep themselves out of jail. We have asked in this thread probably a hundred times of a number of people to tell us who they would like to hear testify, and not a one of them ever said a mumbling word.
The truth is still the truth, and everybody here knows it, regardless of how much they try to protest it and spin it. But, as always, you are welcome to try.
Post on. Just don't delude yourself that you are in the least convincing.
The proof is that they rioted after hearing Trump's speech. The crowd understood what Trump wanted, and they did it.
You are the only one who can't seem to understand what Trump told the crowd to do.
Lol. There’s no proof that because Trump incited them to riot. He told them to protest peacefully which is how it started. How it ended isn’t his fault.
I understand exactly what he told them to do. It’s you that is ignoring the fact that he told them to protest peacefully and patriotically.
Hmmm, well no it’s not really my feelings that, in the weeks leading up to the certification, he pushed a lie that the election was fraudulent, that he and his cronies pushed the false narrative that he won, inciting anger and building up masses of resentment amongst his most ardent.
It is not my feeling that he held a “rally” on that day at that time in that location where he threw HIS OWN VICE PRESIDENT under the proverbial and set the mob off to stop Pence from certifying the election as is HIS FREAKIN JUTY.
He asked them to go there, they did, and that’s that. Any normal responsible POTUS would have not held that event in the first place. He wanted to go join them FFS. I’ll give him this, he has cojones the size of watermelons, the balls on the guy to actually try and pull that off. The urge to hold onto power at all costs is strong.
And then he asked them to protest peacefully and patriotically and that’s that, and also what you’re ignoring.
Where’s your proof that will hold up in court that he incited the riot?
pretty clear, giuliani is trying to convince the crowd that a crime has been committed and they need to fight against it with a "trial by combat".
Trial by combat (also wager of battle, trial by battle or judicial duel) was a method of Germanic law to settle accusations in the absence of witnesses or a confession in which two parties in dispute fought in single combat; the winner of the fight was proclaimed to be right. In essence, it was a judicially sanctioned duel.
It has nothing to do with mob rule or mob violence. It doesn't even has to do with a crowd. Wrong metaphor or it went over people's head but is not a crime. Maybe he was joking that he wanted for Trump and Biden settled their dispute in a single combat. Try again.
Hmmm, well no it’s not really my feelings that, in the weeks leading up to the certification, he pushed a lie that the election was fraudulent, that he and his cronies pushed the false narrative that he won, inciting anger and building up masses of resentment amongst his most ardent.
It is not my feeling that he held a “rally” on that day at that time in that location where he threw HIS OWN VICE PRESIDENT under the proverbial and set the mob off to stop Pence from certifying the election as is HIS FREAKIN JUTY.
He asked them to go there, they did, and that’s that. Any normal responsible POTUS would have not held that event in the first place. He wanted to go join them FFS. I’ll give him this, he has cojones the size of watermelons, the balls on the guy to actually try and pull that off. The urge to hold onto power at all costs is strong.
Exactly, he would be in a much better place today, had he not held that rally on that day at that hour, we wouldn't be here talking it today.
Go to YT and watch the hearings. There are probably 20 people we have seen testify about it. So far.
Except that’s not proof that will hold up in court that he incited a riot. The fact is folks are so obsessed with getting him that they choose to ignore what he said. When’s the court date for this “proof”?
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Whatever you say. I didn't know you find people criminally guilty without the law. Amazing.
