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Many Blacks are leaving CITIES, period, Democrat-ran and Republican-ran. And crime isn't the only reason. Some Blacks leave because the cost of living is going p. Others leave to buy houses in the suburbs.
Over the past two elections, Black male voter participation has dropped. More Blacks aren't voting Republican. Fewer Blacks are voting Republican. The percentage might have gone up, but this is due to the number of Black voters giving up on politics entirely. And this still leaves the vast majority Blacks voting Democrat. Until the percentage of Blacks voting Republican reaches levels of 35-40%, FORGET IT!!!
Many Blacks might not like Biden very much. This doesn't mean more Blacks are liking Republicans. Some Black people have given up on voting because they feel like both parties are no good.
You act as if you think you know Black people better than they know themselves. and all I see are some far-right types grasping at straws.
"Wrong"
Yep, YOU are wrong AGAIN.
MORE blacks voted for Trump then ANY previos repub president.
I know you can't handle it, so you lash out in your usual .
"and all I see are some far-right types grasping at straws"
And individuals who want to remain the city core, but for less money, they go to smaller cities.
Suburban areas tend to be mixed bags in terms certain socioeconomic factors. You have suburbs with large numbers of wealthy people living in them, and they give off the air of exclusiveness, if they are expensive. And then there are some suburbs that are basically ghettos.
Example. Southlake is a wealthy suburb of the Dallas-Ft. Worth area. It's actually close to Fort Worth. Average income in Southlake is over 100K annually. And then take Forest Hill, TX. Suburb of Dallas-Ft. Worth. Same county as Southlake, in Tarrant. Forest Hill has a poverty rate around 20%. Average income for Forest Hill is $32,000 annually.
One suburb I lived in (I was about 10 years old at the time) my family and me were living in an apartment complex. We figured "it's in the suburbs so it shouldn't be bad". It was a sketchy place to live. It wasn't nearly as bad as parts of South Atlanta. It wasn't nearly as bad as Englewood (one of Chicago's worst neighborhoods). I didn't go to bed hearing shootings or wondering "is a gang member going to get me". However, it was a sketchy place to live. A murder did happen in the neighborhood (at a gas station). There were alot of drugs and theft. My family and me were only there until we got our house built. Ironically, the schools were actually decent. The high school I would have been districted to, had we stayed, it was actually a good high school (and still is. It has a magnet program).
We moved to another suburb as soon as our house was built. The suburb we moved to next was rather "redneck" in character. The subdivision used to be a farm two years prior. There were still Confederate flags flying in several areas.
I look back on where I lived. The suburb my parents, siblings, and me moved away from, it has gone through gentrification over the last 15 years. And some of the sketchy elements that were there have been pushed to other places. In between building two new stadiums (one for the Atlanta Braves, another for Kennesaw State University) and gentrification, some of the poorer elements have been getting pushed to other counties.
Even some suburbs are starting function like some cities do: A rich enclave while the outskirts are a mixed bag. Decatur, GA is like that. Decatur proper could easily be mistaken for one of Atlanta's richer neighborhoods. Outside of Decatur are some sketchy areas. And this is the thing. You might not know because there are places outside of Decatur that get Decatur mailing address, but it's technically unincorportated DeKalb County.
I've seen Braves games at both Turner Field and Truist Park.
Of course the Braves didn't pick the site and have Turner Field built (but rather the stadium for the Olympics was converted), but you could look out over from the 'back lip' of the stadium and see a public housing project nearby. In contrast, Truist Park sits in The Battery Atlanta, and I also haven't encountered any issues in the surrounding area.
I've seen Braves games at both Turner Field and Truist Park.
Of course the Braves didn't pick the site and have Turner Field built (but rather the stadium for the Olympics was converted), but you could look out over from the 'back lip' of the stadium and see a public housing project nearby. In contrast, Truist Park sits in The Battery Atlanta, and I also haven't encountered any issues in the surrounding area.
So have I. I was talking about something else though. I was responding to this person's post. I was speaking explicitly about the suburbs being a mixed bag. I was saying that some of Atlanta's suburban areas can have the same things going on as Atlanta proper. Crime, gentrification, etc. I wasn't specifically talking about the Braves.
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Originally Posted by Avondalist
American cities are becoming like European cities, with an expensive, gentrified core and the suburbs are a mixed bag. "Moving to the suburbs" doesn't always mean what it meant in 1975.
MORE blacks voted for Trump then ANY previos repub president.
I know you can't handle it, so you lash out in your usual .
"and all I see are some far-right types grasping at straws"
"Pot, meet kettle", as they say.
This is probably why the democrats are throwing everything they can at Trump because he is changing the GOP and for the better. We are finally getting rid of all of those RINO's and can hopefully get back to the days of Eisenhower, and people like him were fighting for prosperity for all. Many democrats claim to fight for prosperity for all, but truth is, that program they sign into law has strings attached where they have family or friends that will make money from those programs.
According to this article, political parties have nothing to do with Blacks moving to certain cities. Of the cities mentioned, it's a combination of both parties. Plenty of Black people are moving to Columbus and Charlotte as well as Fort Worth and Jacksonville. Charlotte and Columbus are Democratic cities. Jacksonville and Fort Worth are Republican cities (Fort Worth may not remain Republican for very long based on Tarrant County voting for Biden this past election). https://abcnews.go.com/Lifestyle/wir...ities-83436125
According to the article, reasons listed for many Blacks moving to those areas include: less traffic, less congestion. Basically, Columbus and Charlotte have less of a rat race than Atlanta, Los Angeles, and Houston.
By the way, just to be fair-minded, I'll bring up Florida. Miami is a Republican city. So is Jacksonville. Alot of Black Americans have left Miami. Black Americans are moving to Jacksonville. For those who claim political parties have something to do with this, explain something. Why is Jacksonville gaining more African-Americans, but Republican-led Miami is losing African-Americans (in many cases losing them to other states)?
This is probably why the democrats are throwing everything they can at Trump because he is changing the GOP and for the better. We are finally getting rid of all of those RINO's and can hopefully get back to the days of Eisenhower, and people like him were fighting for prosperity for all. Many democrats claim to fight for prosperity for all, but truth is, that program they sign into law has strings attached where they have family or friends that will make money from those programs.
I don't see the Republican Party getting better. I see a big split in the party. It's the MAGA Republicans vs the rest of the Republican Party. It's Mo Brooks and Marjorie Taylor Greene vs Republicans like John Kasich and Rick Perry.
Something else. I don't see the party going to the GOP of Eisenhower. I don't know where things are going.
And as for the Democrats, I don't think they are doing any better either. The loudest persons in the room are the woke individuals.
By the way, this thread proves to me, once again, that there is a huge obsession about who Black people vote for. I don't believe for a moment that this has anything to do with any real concern for the well-being of Black Americans.
Probably tired of white liberals trying to replace them with illegals from south of the border.
Plenty of illegals going to Republican areas as well.
Tell you what. If you want to know why many Black people are leaving many cities, why not ask them yourself? Why not do the research (from non-political sources, not stuff like Breitbart)?
This is probably why the democrats are throwing everything they can at Trump because he is changing the GOP and for the better. We are finally getting rid of all of those RINO's and can hopefully get back to the days of Eisenhower, and people like him were fighting for prosperity for all. Many democrats claim to fight for prosperity for all, but truth is, that program they sign into law has strings attached where they have family or friends that will make money from those programs.
This crowd would probably call Eisenhower a socialist. Wasn’t the tax rate for millionaires over 50% during his administration?
According to this article, political parties have nothing to do with Blacks moving to certain cities. Of the cities mentioned, it's a combination of both parties. Plenty of Black people are moving to Columbus and Charlotte as well as Fort Worth and Jacksonville. Charlotte and Columbus are Democratic cities. Jacksonville and Fort Worth are Republican cities (Fort Worth may not remain Republican for very long based on Tarrant County voting for Biden this past election). https://abcnews.go.com/Lifestyle/wir...ities-83436125
According to the article, reasons listed for many Blacks moving to those areas include: less traffic, less congestion. Basically, Columbus and Charlotte have less of a rat race than Atlanta, Los Angeles, and Houston.
By the way, just to be fair-minded, I'll bring up Florida. Miami is a Republican city. So is Jacksonville. Alot of Black Americans have left Miami. Black Americans are moving to Jacksonville. For those who claim political parties have something to do with this, explain something. Why is Jacksonville gaining more African-Americans, but Republican-led Miami is losing African-Americans (in many cases losing them to other states)?
Duval County, FL which is mostly coextensive with Jacksonville also voted narrowly for Biden in 2020. Compared to Miami, the Jacksonville area is much more affordable and less congested, while having a relatively solid job market and attractive beaches and other amenities.
There is a general domestic out-migration from greater Miami, which has the highest percentage of foreign born residents in the US and an unusual dynamic where in many contexts Spanish is the predominant language. Popular destinations include other metro areas across Florida (such as Jacksonville), plus Atlanta, Charlotte and the major Texas metros. Black Americans are a significant part of this migration pattern, and the drivers are likely centered around better financial and quality of life prospects away from southeast Florida - not which political party is locally dominant.
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