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Old 06-09-2022, 05:49 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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The children have rights as well which must be protected, and for my money their right to live far outweighs your right to have toys.


How much more illegal should we make it to kill people?

The current level of. Illegal doesn't seem to be working.

And BTW, My toys never killed anyone.

But I did get a really bad sprain stepping on a Lego once.
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Old 06-09-2022, 07:01 AM
 
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Can you cite your source please? I lived in the US for thirty years and I can recall countless mass (rampage, not familial nor inner city gang related) killings in that time. Including the Las Vegas massacre the week I left. In the 5 years since being back in Oz, only one, in Darwin 2019, where 4 people died.
Here is the Australia list. There were 2 shootings in 2019 alone.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...s_in_Australia

Additionally, they had a number of vehicle and arson attacks so that's something to consider in that there are 4 general categories of killings:

1. Domestic - Really not going to get around this, Australia still has lots of these.
2. Gang\Drug - they're obviously going to ignore laws unless you realy crack down and that's not going to happen after 2020 BLM in the US.
3. Robberies - May have some impact here but then you disarm the law abiding...but the robbers don't comply?
4. Nutjobs - Could see *some* benefit here but it's been shown both in the US, Australia etc. that they will shift to vehicles, arson etc.

So, some people are jumping from a solution working in their heads in theory to assuming that it will work in real life. That's a huge leap.
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Old 06-09-2022, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Once we come to terms with, it's a criminal/mental illness problem , not a gun problem... then we can all move in the right direction towards keeping people safe and maintaining the RIGHT of self defense.
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Old 06-09-2022, 08:12 AM
 
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Swimming pool deaths are accidental unlike the mass murderers who shoot up our schools, churches, concerts and movie theaters.
If something can cause this much damage accidentally, it’s way more dangerous than guns. We must save the children.
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Old 06-09-2022, 08:15 AM
 
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Swimming pool deaths are accidental unlike the mass murderers who shoot up our schools, churches, concerts and movie theaters.
A death is a death, accidentally or not. You don’t care about children dying.
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Old 06-09-2022, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Florida
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A death is a death, accidentally or not. You don’t care about children dying.
What a horrible thing to accuse someone of. Speaks volumes of your perspective..
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Old 06-09-2022, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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The children have rights as well which must be protected, and for my money their right to live far outweighs your right to have toys.
Then why are liberals pro-choice?

Clearly a child’s right to be born stops at the poor choices (or circumstances) of its own mother.
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Old 06-09-2022, 08:23 AM
 
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The DEMAND for child porn/ underage sex slaves is very high in the US and the entire world actually.


As long as demand is very high, there will always be a supply. its not a problem they can prosecute away. No matter how many child molesters they arrest...the demand will remain HIGH.


They can catch and arrest one 'human trafficker of sex slaves'...(but another will just take his place), to meet the demand. Police are the WRONG group to give this task!! Public health dept would be more appropriate.
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Old 06-09-2022, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Sammamish, WA
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The children have rights as well which must be protected, and for my money their right to live far outweighs your right to have toys.
So I guess we need to ban cars and fast food as well, since childhood obesity and child car deaths have increased recently.

If you ban guns, then any psycho can still walk into an elementary school and start stabbing kids to death, especially when school officials are morons and leave the doors unlocked for any stranger to walk in.

Maybe we need to invest in getting secure metal doors for schools with strong locks and bullet proof glass?
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Old 06-09-2022, 08:28 AM
 
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The DEMAND for child porn/ underage sex slaves is very high in the US and the entire world actually.


As long as demand is very high, there will always be a supply. its not a problem they can prosecute away. No matter how many child molesters they arrest...the demand will remain HIGH.


They can catch and arrest one 'human trafficker of sex slaves'...(but another will just take his place), to meet the demand. Police are the WRONG group to give this task!! Public health dept would be more appropriate.
Don't forget, you can't say pedophile any more. It is now MAP (minor attracted person) sarcasm.
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